16 апреля 2012 г. 2:52 пользователь Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.comнаписал:
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Arvids Godjuks
arvids.godj...@gmail.comwrote:
I posted the bellow text in other thread, but i should have it post here,
so i'm reposting it to this thread.
Well, it's time for me
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Arvids Godjuks
arvids.godj...@gmail.comwrote:
16 апреля 2012 г. 2:52 пользователь Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.comнаписал:
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.com
wrote:
I posted the bellow text in other thread, but i
I should say that I do not understand in full how it suppose to work. From
the RFC it is absolutely unclear how to deal with this and the mixed code
load approach is just dismissed as invalid concern, quoting from the RFC:
Besides, such an allowance is completely unnecessary anyway, since using
These tools already strip ?php tags, they would need minimal changes to
support rolling in a .phpp file unmodified. Unless I am missing something?
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On Apr 15, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.com wrote:
I posted the bellow text in other thread, but i
16 апреля 2012 г. 16:09 пользователь Tom Boutell t...@punkave.com написал:
These tools already strip ?php tags, they would need minimal changes to
support rolling in a .phpp file unmodified. Unless I am missing something?
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On Apr 15, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Arvids Godjuks
Oh I see. Yes, this is one of the reasons I don't like the pure can't
include non-pure idea.
Another reason: you can't write generic algorithms. PHP 5.4 has much
improved support for anonymous functions, so we should see an increase
in libraries that take a few functions as parameters and carry
Also, Kris's proposal requires that an additional flag be tracked all
the way down through the stack of requires and includes from the point
where pure mode is first encountered, remembering that we're in pure
mode. Note that this flag cannot be a global variable because .php
files that were
2012/4/16 Tom Boutell t...@punkave.com
Also, Kris's proposal requires that an additional flag be tracked all
the way down through the stack of requires and includes from the point
where pure mode is first encountered, remembering that we're in pure
mode. Note that this flag cannot be a global
Kris, you have been talking recently about allowing for a mode that
permits the inclusion of .php from .php... something (whatever we're
calling this middle mode's recommended file extension).
I think having three modes is overkill, but some people think having
even two modes is overkill, so I'm
2012/4/16 Tom Boutell t...@punkave.com
Kris, you have been talking recently about allowing for a mode that
permits the inclusion of .php from .php... something (whatever we're
calling this middle mode's recommended file extension).
I think having three modes is overkill, but some people
I think updating your RFC to cover the broad points that have changed
is worth it, even if small differences will continue to be expressed
about the syntax.
2012/4/16 Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com:
2012/4/16 Tom Boutell t...@punkave.com
Kris, you have been talking recently about allowing
@Ferenc Thanks for the thoughtful analysis! I must confess I'm a bit
groggy at the moment so I'll have to go over it later.
sure, take your time.
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On 14/04/12 03:41, Kris Craig wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:37 PM, David Muir davidkm...@gmail.com
mailto:davidkm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/04/12 15:13, Kris Craig wrote:
Again, the controller should NOT be a .phpp file. Likewise,
your model
should NOT be hooking
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 3:58 AM, David Muir davidkm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/04/12 03:41, Kris Craig wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:37 PM, David Muir davidkm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/04/12 15:13, Kris Craig wrote:
Again, the controller should NOT be a .phpp file. Likewise, your
The gain has been described by myself and others quite a bit already. As
far as I can tell, the fact that some frameworks/libraries wouldn't be
compatible with this doesn't negate the unrelated advantages that do exist.
Worst-case scenario, you just wouldn't use this with those frameworks.
I posted the bellow text in other thread, but i should have it post here,
so i'm reposting it to this thread.
Well, it's time for me to remind about the techique many use (and some
frameworks provide it out of the box) - the application file concatination
to speed up file loading.
Yii framework
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.comwrote:
I posted the bellow text in other thread, but i should have it post here,
so i'm reposting it to this thread.
Well, it's time for me to remind about the techique many use (and some
frameworks provide it out of the
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:
The gain has been described by myself and others quite a bit already. As
far as I can tell, the fact that some frameworks/libraries wouldn't be
compatible with this doesn't negate the unrelated advantages that do
exist.
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:39 PM
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM, John Crenshaw johncrens...@priacta.com
wrote:
On top of this, there's an argument that you're not addressing: most
template engines in PHP either directly consume PHP template files...
or compile templates
John Crenshaw wrote:
I think that covered just about everything quite tidily John. Certainly a lot
more succinct than I would have managed!
Well put ...
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM, John Crenshaw johncrens...@priacta.comwrote:
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:39 PM
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM, John Crenshaw
johncrens...@priacta.com wrote:
On top of this, there's an argument that you're not addressing:
most
template
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM, John LeSueur john.lesu...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:51 PM, John LeSueur
On 2012-04-13, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM, John LeSueur john.lesu...@gmail.com wrote:
//a controller, maybe a class, maybe just a set of functions, but in a
.phpp file
function getLoginPage()
{
//set up some data
//some people like
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:37 PM, David Muir davidkm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/04/12 15:13, Kris Craig wrote:
Again, the controller should NOT be a .phpp file. Likewise, your model
should NOT be hooking directly to the view. The controller hooks to the
model. The controller then
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.comwrote:
Kris.
I can give you a real world example where that straight MVC with the. pphp
if not breaks, then definetly becomes an ugly mess.
I use Yii framework as my tool, it has some very nice tools for templating
like
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
weierophin...@php.net wrote:
On 2012-04-13, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM, John LeSueur john.lesu...@gmail.com
wrote:
//a controller, maybe a class, maybe just a set of functions, but in a
On top of this, there's an argument that you're not addressing: most
template engines in PHP either directly consume PHP template files...
or compile templates into... PHP template files. As such, sooner or
later, you'll have a class that includes a PHP template file, and
that's
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM, John Crenshaw johncrens...@priacta.comwrote:
On top of this, there's an argument that you're not addressing: most
template engines in PHP either directly consume PHP template files...
or compile templates into... PHP template files. As such, sooner or
On 2012-04-13, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM, John Crenshaw johncrens...@priacta.com
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On top of this, there's an argument that you're not addressing: most
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
weierophin...@php.net wrote:
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:46 PM, David Muir davidkm...@gmail.com wrote:
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