Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-26 Thread Adam Harvey
On 25 February 2012 04:02, Gustavo Lopes glo...@nebm.ist.utl.pt wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:57:50 +0100, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: If you're planning to have a PHP 5.4 RC9, should Apache 2.4 support be included?  This would reduce any negative user sentiment that PHP 5.4

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-26 Thread Kris Craig
So long as that release note clarifies that this patch has NOT yet gone through the QA cycle and that, therefore, you use it at your own risk; then I have no objection to that approach. --Kris On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Adam Harvey ahar...@php.net wrote: On 25 February 2012 04:02,

[PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Christopher Jones
Stas, David, If you're planning to have a PHP 5.4 RC9, should Apache 2.4 support be included? This would reduce any negative user sentiment that PHP 5.4 doesn't even support the latest Apache. There is a patch attached to https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=61172 It needs review and wider

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! If you're planning to have a PHP 5.4 RC9, should Apache 2.4 support be included? This would reduce any negative user sentiment that PHP 5.4 doesn't even support the latest Apache. Latest Apache is about 3 days old now :) If somebody expects PHP to have release version supporting new

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Klaus Silveira
I agree with Stas on this one. Certainly not critical and needs some review while on the trunk. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.comwrote: Hi! If you're planning to have a PHP 5.4 RC9, should Apache 2.4 support be included? This would reduce any negative

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Kris Craig
Yeah I agree with Stas. I definitely think this is a good idea and should be included, but since we're already in the RC phase for 5.4.0 and Apache 2.4 is only a few days old, I don't think it's necessary to rush it into 5.4.0 (which has already been delayed far too many times already).

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Gustavo Lopes
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:57:50 +0100, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: If you're planning to have a PHP 5.4 RC9, should Apache 2.4 support be included? This would reduce any negative user sentiment that PHP 5.4 doesn't even support the latest Apache. Latest Apache is about 3 days

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Christopher Jones
On 02/24/2012 11:57 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: Hi! If you're planning to have a PHP 5.4 RC9, should Apache 2.4 support be included? This would reduce any negative user sentiment that PHP 5.4 doesn't even support the latest Apache. Latest Apache is about 3 days old now :) If somebody expects

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Kris Craig
These things often tend to move slowly. I'm bewildered that most Linux repos still use PHP 5.1. The problem is, this patch has not yet gone through the QA wash cycle. That takes time. The only way to get it into 5.4.0, therefore, would be to delay it even further. I needn't remind anybody here

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Kris Craig
These things often tend to move slowly. I'm bewildered that most Linux repos still use PHP 5.1. The problem is, this patch has not yet gone through the QA wash cycle. That takes time. The only way to get it into 5.4.0, therefore, would be to delay it even further. I needn't remind anybody here

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
On 02/24/2012 03:11 PM, Christopher Jones wrote: I kinda think Apache 2.4 was under development a bit longer than three days, so PHP could reasonably have been expected to know what was coming. Maybe it just shows that less and less people care about Apache, including PHP core developers.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Pierre Joye
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Sebastian Bergmann sebast...@php.net wrote: On 02/24/2012 03:11 PM, Christopher Jones wrote: I kinda think Apache 2.4 was under development a bit longer than three days, so PHP could reasonably have been expected to know what was coming. We have been

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Lester Caine
Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Maybe it just shows that less and less people care about Apache, We have just taken over another small web hosting company ... first job move all of the windows/ASP sites on to the local Apache/PHP framework servers so we can add all the feature the customers have

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Kris Craig
Regardless, I think this part of the conversation is pointless. I personally couldn't care less whether anybody thinks we're supporting new Apache builds quickly enough or whose fault it is if the newest one doesn't make it into the current build. The finger pointing is just a petty distraction

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.02.2012 20:57, schrieb Stas Malyshev: Hi! If you're planning to have a PHP 5.4 RC9, should Apache 2.4 support be included? This would reduce any negative user sentiment that PHP 5.4 doesn't even support the latest Apache. Latest Apache is about 3 days old now :) If somebody

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! no because both PHP 5.4 and Apache 2.4 was devel-versions for a long time It may be anywhere for a long time, but it was raised here first time today, as far as I know. It's too late for 5.4.0, there's no point talking about it, this ship has sailed. But for the future, if you (not

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Bostjan Skufca
Despite the fact that Apache HTTPD's website says that 2.4.1 represents the best available version of Apache HTTP Server, and that PHP 5.4.0 will probably also bear similar notation (guesswork here!), very few (if any!) production environments are going to even bother considering running first

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.02.2012 00:09, schrieb Bostjan Skufca: Despite the fact that Apache HTTPD's website says that 2.4.1 represents the best available version of Apache HTTP Server, and that PHP 5.4.0 will probably also bear similar notation (guesswork here!), very few (if any!) production environments are

Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0?

2012-02-24 Thread Bostjan Skufca
On 25 February 2012 00:18, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Again, why? Because they will skip 5.4.0 in production. And 2.4.1 too. you are missing the fact that many consider testing the new major versions and many of them will only start testing PHP 5.4 in combination with