Hi Benoit,
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 2:49 AM, Benoit Schildknecht bensor...@neuf.fr
wrote:
Why hasn't it closed ? It's way past the 25th.
Vote was closed before the end date. IIRC.
It's withdrawn status, I suppose.
Regards,
--
Yasuo Ohgaki
yohg...@ohgaki.net
Le Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:10:44 +0100, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com a écrit:
The vote on the Coercive Scalar Type Hints is now open for voting.
The latest version of the RFC includes changes discussed on internals@
last
week:
1. Accept string-bool and int-bool conversions (false-bool is not
Hi Zeev,
On 11 March 2015 at 18:48, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote:
Rest assured that if I see that they both seem to be failing as we near the
end of the voting time, I'll retract the Coercive STH RFC - and I'll
actually vote in favor of the dual mode RFC,
People sometimes tell me that
Zeev,
The vote on the Coercive Scalar Type Hints is now open for voting.
The latest version of the RFC includes changes discussed on internals@ last
week:
1. Accept string-bool and int-bool conversions (false-bool is not
supported)
2. Accept leading/trailing spaces in string-number
Zeev,
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote:
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From: Derick Rethans [mailto:der...@php.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:37 PM
To: Zeev Suraski
Cc: Anthony Ferrara; internals@lists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] RE: [VOTE][RFC
-Original Message-
From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:z...@zend.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:28 PM
To: 'Theodore Brown'
Cc: 'internals@lists.php.net'
Subject: RE: [VOTE][RFC] Coercive Scalar Type Hints
Yes, with strict STH you'd know that more things fail during static
analysis
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, Zeev Suraski wrote:
From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com]
function bar(float $x)
$foo = 1;
bar($foo); // will definitely fail in strict mode
No, actually it won't fail in strict mode:
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From: Derick Rethans [mailto:der...@php.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:37 PM
To: Zeev Suraski
Cc: Anthony Ferrara; internals@lists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] RE: [VOTE][RFC] Coercive Scalar Type Hints
You're right, sorry. Reverse
On Wednesday, March 11 2015 at 1:14 pm Zeev Suraski wrote:
I don't believe strict STH would bring any meaningful gains for static
analysis, no. Unlike the JIT/AOT advantages (on the same code) which I
believe I've proven cannot be gained, I can't prove this one - because you
can infer
The proposed coercion rules aren't clear. The first table in the RFC
implies
that string is accepted for bool hints, and the second table says this
is
unchanged. But the examples section states that foo - bool will raise
an
E_DEPRECATED error. I'm guessing this is a mistake, since you
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From: Theodore Brown [mailto:theodor...@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:01 PM
To: Zeev Suraski
Cc: internals@lists.php.net
Subject: RE: [VOTE][RFC] Coercive Scalar Type Hints
On Wednesday, March 11 2015 at 1:14 pm Zeev Suraski wrote:
I don't
mode RFC, as much as I think it's bad, so
that we have SOME sort of scalar type hinting in 7.
Zeev
-Original Message-
From: Benoit Schildnecht [mailto:bensor...@neuf.fr]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:37 PM
To: internals@lists.php.net
Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE][RFC] Coercive
Hi,
You are making a very huge mistake, IMHO. By having 2 conflicting RFC,
you are taking the risk they both fail. And it won't do any good to the
language.
While you could have either proposed yours after the STH one if it
would have failed, or create a new RFC to make the STH one evolve
if it
Zeev,
You also stated above that false-bool is not supported (I'm guessing
you
meant float-bool). So users would be able to pass 4.3 to a bool
typehint,
but not 4.3? This behavior seems very arbitrary and confusing.
It may be confusing, but only academically so. Again, this approach tries
On 11 March 2015 at 18:46, Eli e...@eliw.com wrote:
Benoit ... actually Anthony's original proposal specifically was
designed to be live at the same time as this alternative proposal. And
it's even mentioned in the proposal (stating that it would stay open
until the 13th or when the
Benoit ... actually Anthony's original proposal specifically was
designed to be live at the same time as this alternative proposal. And
it's even mentioned in the proposal (stating that it would stay open
until the 13th or when the alternative proposal voting ended - whichever
was later)
So this
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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:28 PM
To: Zeev Suraski
Cc: Theodore Brown; internals@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: [VOTE][RFC] Coercive Scalar Type Hints
Zeev,
You also stated above that false
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