On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.dewrote:
structs as in c# don't have methods, however DateTime has them. so
this doesn't work. What you can do is just pass all the data in the
constructor and then don't change it, and you have your value type that is
After discussing things over the PHP chat on Stack Overflow, I
realized I misread and missed the point.
Good suggestion, you have my +1.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Richard Bradley
richard.brad...@softwire.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Benjamin Eberlei
On 04/05/2013 09:31 AM, Madara Uchiha wrote:
After discussing things over the PHP chat on Stack Overflow, I
realized I misread and missed the point.
Good suggestion, you have my +1.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Richard Bradley
richard.brad...@softwire.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at
See the Structs Tutorial at msdn for a brief summary of structs in C# -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa288471(v=vs.71).aspx
Looking at that code sample, yes - that is more or less exactly what I had
in mind.
I take back my last remark - I don't think the similarity in syntax is
If structs were even somehow interchangeable with real arrays, that might
be a really useful side gain:
$white = new Color(1, 1, 1);
$red = $white-r; // it's a struct
$green = $white['r']; // it's an array
$type = $white['__struct']; // = 'Color'
$array = ['r'=1, 'g'=1, 'b'=1,
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Rasmus Schultz ras...@mindplay.dk wrote:
See the Structs Tutorial at msdn for a brief summary of structs in C# -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa288471(v=vs.71).aspx
Looking at that code sample, yes - that is more or less exactly what I had in
I imagine the implementation could be something along the lines of checking
for the '__struct' key when somebody attempts to use method-call syntax on
an array, invoking the appropriate method with $this referencing the array
you were using.
The rest of the time, a struct, for all intents
On the other hand, I would just use an array. (without any magic
like methods on structs, yes you would have to write plain functions
and not use OOP like methods).
Yeah, that's what people are doing right now - the problem with that, is
you have the class-name referenced on every call, e.g.:
why not make struct almost like a class except
that $this is a copy (on write) - modifying and returning $this would
be a new instance of that struct/class. That would give you
public/private/static/variables/methods/interfaces/..., but it would
lead to another type.
As said, I don't know
On 06/04/2013, at 1:40 AM, Rasmus Schultz ras...@mindplay.dk wrote:
why not make struct almost like a class except
that $this is a copy (on write) - modifying and returning $this would
be a new instance of that struct/class. That would give you
I've been pondering this issue for a while now, and I keep reaching the
same conclusion, so I'm going to just briefly share what I think.
In my opinion, the real issue is not poor design of the DateTime class - it
works as you would expect classes and objects to work, in the sense that
when you
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From: dor.tchi...@gmail.com
Date: Apr 4, 2013 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] a couple of thoughts on the DateTime type debate
To: Rasmus Schultz ras...@mindplay.dk
Cc:
I really don't understand the problem. You have a DateTime instance, you
manipulate it as
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:13:54 +0400, Rasmus Schultz ras...@mindplay.dk
wrote:
I've been pondering this issue for a while now, and I keep reaching the
same conclusion, so I'm going to just briefly share what I think.
In my opinion, the real issue is not poor design of the DateTime class -
it
Is it a really big feature if it's just syntactic sugar and internally
stored as an array? say:
struct Color
{
public $r = 1.0;
public $g = 1.0;
public $b = 1.0;
}
Stored internally this might be something like:
array('__type'='Color', 'r'=1.0, 'g'=1.0, 'b'=1.0)
Have you worked
OOP is not a beginner's concept. I don't want to sacrifice good coding
practices for a better learning curve.
Also, a glance on the manual would reveal that the method returns the same
instance for chaining (which is also debatable, why do we even do that?)
On Apr 4, 2013 7:46 PM, Rasmus Schultz
2013/4/4 Madara Uchiha dor.tchi...@gmail.com
OOP is not a beginner's concept. I don't want to sacrifice good coding
practices for a better learning curve.
This is interesting. Best practices from other languages, including C#,
Scala etc, have shown that some things are better represented by
You're right, struct isn't the right word - value is probably more
accurate.
value Color
{
public $r = 1.0;
public $g = 1.0;
public $b = 1.0;
public function __construct($r, $g, $b)
{
$this-r = $r;
$this-g = $g;
$this-b = $b;
}
public function
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