Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Will Fitch
On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, After reading the Voting Periods email thread, I'm left wondering a simple question (which has a difficult answer): What should we be voting on when voting on an RFC: on the RFC proposed feature, or on the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! What should we be voting on when voting on an RFC: on the RFC proposed feature, or on the patch itself? Either, or both, depending on the RFC and the intent of the author. Note that since there's rarely competing teams/patches on the same feature, accepting the RFC means also accepting the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, After reading the Voting Periods email thread, I'm left wondering a simple question (which has a difficult answer): What should we be voting on when voting on an RFC: on the RFC proposed feature, or on

RE: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
What should we be voting on when voting on an RFC: on the RFC proposed feature, or on the patch itself? I think it should be exclusively on the concept. We never vote about code changes anywhere - including when we refactor existing parts. Why would we vote about the implementation here? The

Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Levi Morrison
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: What should we be voting on when voting on an RFC: on the RFC proposed feature, or on the patch itself? I think it should be exclusively on the concept. We never vote about code changes anywhere - including when we refactor

RE: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
-Original Message- From: Levi Morrison [mailto:morrison.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:04 PM To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Anthony Ferrara; internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote

Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.comwrote: Hey all, After reading the Voting Periods email thread, I'm left wondering a simple question (which has a difficult answer): What should we be voting on when voting on an RFC: on the RFC proposed feature, or on the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Anthony Ferrara wrote: I've always approached it as we're voting for the concept (and details) provided in the RFC. But it appears that other people have been voting on the specifics of the attached patch (so theoretically an RFC could be rejected entirely because some

Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Patrick ALLAERT
2013/1/28 Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com: What should we be voting on when voting on an RFC: on the RFC proposed feature, or on the patch itself? I think it should be exclusively on the concept. We never vote about code changes anywhere - including when we refactor existing parts. Why would we

Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Patrick ALLAERT
2013/1/28 Derick Rethans der...@php.net: Both the idea and implementation needs to be sound. If not, I vote no (and that also means no when it makes APC's life harder). This is a bit unfair. APC is just one byte code caching mechanism out there, even if it's the mostly used or most performing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Patrick ALLAERT patrickalla...@php.netwrote: 2013/1/28 Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com: What should we be voting on when voting on an RFC: on the RFC proposed feature, or on the patch itself? I think it should be exclusively on the concept. We never vote

Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting

2013-01-28 Thread Arpad Ray
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Patrick ALLAERT patrickalla...@php.net wrote: It's perfectly valid to accept an RFC and comment on the implementation on what should be improved or what sucks in it. If one is