Re: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting

2010-05-29 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Am 28.05.2010 20:07, schrieb Stas Malyshev: On top of that, your boilerplate throws exception. Strict typing would error out. That's very different thing (exceptions can be handled hierarchically, errors can't). So replacing that with strict type probably won't do the same. The optional

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Commit messages and ChangeLog (Re: [PHP-DEV] ChangeLog)

2010-05-29 Thread Gwynne Raskind
On May 28, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: Is anybody using this file? If this is thee case could somebody then make sure it's being updated (and maybe take care of ChangeLog-200[6-9].gz being created) else I'd suggest dropping them. An outdated file might be confusing for users expecting

Re: [PHP-DEV] ChangeLog

2010-05-29 Thread Pierre Joye
2010/5/29 Johannes Schlüter johan...@schlueters.de: Hey, On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 23:50 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote: I'd to add that unless we add everything in the NEWS file, the ChangeLog remains the only way to have a list of all changes (without doing manually). Having the file is absolutely

Re: [PHP-DEV] ChangeLog

2010-05-29 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hey, On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 23:50 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote: I'd to add that unless we add everything in the NEWS file, the ChangeLog remains the only way to have a list of all changes (without doing manually). Having the file is absolutely fine with me, while I can fulfill my needs with svn

Re: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting

2010-05-29 Thread Chris Stockton
My biggest issue as a user is the fatal errors. Why are we blowing up on something that should throw some kind of useful argument exception? I end up in my applications using instanceof everywhere because their is important cleanup to be done before the end of the request. For example I can't

Re: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting

2010-05-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 20:28 29/05/2010, Chris Stockton wrote: My biggest issue as a user is the fatal errors. Why are we blowing up on something that should throw some kind of useful argument exception? I end up in my applications using instanceof everywhere because their is important cleanup to be done before

Re: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting

2010-05-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 20:34 29/05/2010, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 20:28 29/05/2010, Chris Stockton wrote: My biggest issue as a user is the fatal errors. Why are we blowing up on something that should throw some kind of useful argument exception? I end up in my applications using instanceof everywhere because

Re: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting

2010-05-29 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: At 20:28 29/05/2010, Chris Stockton wrote: My biggest issue as a user is the fatal errors. Why are we blowing up on something that should throw some kind of useful argument exception? I end up in my applications using