Fair enough. I'm bias towards the C# annotation syntax, so that's my
attraction to it.
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Dave Ingram d...@dmi.me.uk wrote:
On 17/11/10 06:38, Will Fitch wrote:
I like the idea, Alec.
My only question is, syntactically, what difference would using a
On Nov 17, 2010, at 4:29, guilhermebla...@gmail.com
guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Stas,
Ok, so you think I should just consider everyone want some sort of
meta attribute support and start discussing the topics?
Of course not. Assuming meta support requires substantial additions of
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote:
On Nov 17, 2010, at 4:29, guilhermebla...@gmail.com
guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Stas,
Ok, so you think I should just consider everyone want some sort of
meta attribute support and start discussing the topics?
I think everyone is jumping the gun on this. Let's let Alec, et al. finish
the newly proposed RFC and then argue about it. If the consensus is still
that the complexity and drag in the introduced syntax outweighs the
benefits, we put it to bed or try again. Fair enough?
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at
I’m not the only one in this thread repeating himself to make a point :)
What I opposed is the notion that ‘everyone wants some sort of meta attribute
support’. Maybe I read too much into it but I read it as implying we need
something substantial that’s new.
Either way, I’m fine with going in
On 17 November 2010 01:54, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote:
Hi!
I would have no trouble accepting a rejection of annotations on the actual
merits, but the interminable sequence of comparisons to phpdoc make it
clear to me that people just don't realize the potential of annotations.
Hello Internals!
For me, as a user-land developer, this issue seems as if some people
are trying to push the annotations at any cost. What they fail to see,
is that annotations are never described what they are and how they can
be useful in our developer work. Right now I, and I think many other
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Arvids Godjuks
arvids.godj...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello Internals!
For me, as a user-land developer, this issue seems as if some people
are trying to push the annotations at any cost. What they fail to see,
is that annotations are never described what they are
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Ferenc Kovacs i...@tyrael.hu wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello Internals!
For me, as a user-land developer, this issue seems as if some people
are trying to push the annotations at any cost.
On 15 November 2010 17:07, guilhermebla...@gmail.com
guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks,
I'll start a series of topics (in this thread) about meta attribute
(aka. Annotations) discussion.
So as soon as we agree on each topic I'll open another point to be discussed.
Only when we reach
Is this related to http://www.ush.it/2009/02/08/php-filesystem-attack-vectors/ ?
That's a quiet old bug, I'm happy to listen it's now worked on and has a patch.
J.Pauli
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Rasmus
Greetings
I wanted to raise this topic before we go Alpha with trunk, regarding
our beloved magic_quotes feature. There seems to be mixed opinions
regarding it so I thought I would take it up for discussion.
We have advised people not to use magic_quotes, register_globals and
the like for years,
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net wrote:
Greetings
I wanted to raise this topic before we go Alpha with trunk, regarding
our beloved magic_quotes feature. There seems to be mixed opinions
regarding it so I thought I would take it up for discussion.
We have
+1 for removing it in trunk
Pierrick
On 17 November 2010 11:08, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net wrote:
Greetings
I wanted to raise this topic before we go Alpha with trunk, regarding
our beloved magic_quotes feature. There seems to be mixed opinions
regarding it so I thought I would
Yeah,
+1 for remove!
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Uwe Schindler
theta...@php.net - http://www.php.net
NSAPI SAPI developer
Bremen, Germany
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My opinion is to remove them completely.
Big +1 from me. It is time for the feature to go.
Olivier (iPhone)
Le 2010-11-17 à 11:08, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net a écrit :
Greetings
My personal vote here goes towards removing them entirely.
What are your inputs on this matter?
--
+1 for removal,
magic quotes stopped being a 'good' thing to do back when I first learnt what
echo did.
Web hosts etc have plenty of version numbers to catch up on/upgrade too before
they get to this being a problem.
(well most anyway)
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From: ka...@php.net
Hi,
Simas' question yesterday lead me to take a look at the RFC on the wiki and
I have a quick question.
Specifically on the 'Rejected Features' - 'Interfaces Propagation' section.
So it sounds like implementing an interface directly with a trait has been
shot down, what I wonder about is will
Hi Nathan:
On 17 Nov 2010, at 19:06, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
So it sounds like implementing an interface directly with a trait has been
shot down,
Yes, Traits are meant to be compile-time only, they are not used to introduce
typing relationships.
what I wonder about is will it still work if a
Now that's something we can agree on :D
We can reduce the syntax added to simply being the attribute tag before
the standard syntax for a function call/class creation.
This means functions can be attributes too (as if that is useful...)!
This is a function being used as an attribute
Hi Simas:
Thanks for sending me the test cases.
I checked them in, and surprise surprise: it actually was already completely
implemented. I didn't had to touch any code...
So the missing bit was being more explicit in the RFC.
I added a section and an example based on your Singleton code.
Now I
Hello php internals list,
My name is Mike Harsch. I'm new here, so please set me straight on
matters of etiquette and protocol.
I've recently been spending a lot of time using the DTrace feature in
the 5.3.99-dev code base (--enable-dtrace). I was disappointed to find
out that Revision
hi,
If there is no objection I like to apply this patch to 5.3 tomorrow
morning (Europe) so we have it in for 5.3.4RC1. Please raise your
concerns until then. At the very least we can always revert it after
RC1.
Cheers,
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com wrote:
On 18 November 2010 00:08, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net wrote:
What are your inputs on this matter?
+1 for removing magic quotes completely from trunk. Kill it with fire.
Adam
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On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Stanley Sufficool ssuffic...@gmail.comwrote:
+1 for removal
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On 11/17/2010 03:40 PM, Mike Harsch wrote:
I'm happy to help however I can to get this feature working again. I don't have
much experience with autoconf, so it's likely that my patch is sub-optimal, but
I've tested it on Solaris and Mac OS X and I know it works (conversely, I can
assure
On 11/17/2010 8:46 PM, Adam Harvey wrote:
On 18 November 2010 00:08, Kalle Sommer Nielsenka...@php.net wrote:
What are your inputs on this matter?
+1 for removing magic quotes completely from trunk. Kill it with fire.
Adam
+infinity. Burn baby burn. (Hudson Ford reference
On Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:56:05 am Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Ferenc Kovacs i...@tyrael.hu wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Arvids Godjuks
arvids.godj...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello Internals!
For me, as a user-land developer, this issue
What are your inputs on this matter?
I'm struggling with this topic. We must do something, but it's important to
understand that plenty of people unknowingly rely upon this security feature
that's still enabled by default. Granted 5.3 does generate E_DEPRECATED errors
when magical quotes are
On Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:19:05 pm Philip Olson wrote:
What are your inputs on this matter?
I'm struggling with this topic. We must do something, but it's important to
understand that plenty of people unknowingly rely upon this security
feature that's still enabled by default.
Mike,
Can you log a bug for this at http://bugs.php.net/report.php ?
Certainly. Here it is:
http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=53338
Mike
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On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
On Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:19:05 pm Philip Olson wrote:
What are your inputs on this matter?
I'm struggling with this topic. We must do something, but it's important to
understand that plenty of people unknowingly rely upon this
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On Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:19:05 pm Philip Olson wrote:
What are your inputs on
On 18 November 2010 15:22, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote:
As much as I'd like to see magic quotes burning in hell (had the option to
kill them when they were small, but unfortunately didn't), I'm wondering
whether the people +1'ing are thinking about the potential consequences to
doing
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