RE: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-27 Thread Laupretre François
How about using git for the actual documents too.. No better way to collaborate imho. Do you mean using github or integrating git VCS in a RFC app ? If you mean using github, it is a convenient way to store document evolution and comments, but what about the voting process, let alone RFC

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-27 Thread Gábor Fási
On 27 July 2012 13:15, Laupretre François francois.laupre...@francetv.fr wrote: How about using git for the actual documents too.. No better way to collaborate imho. Do you mean using github or integrating git VCS in a RFC app ? If you mean using github, it is a convenient way to store

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-27 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Gábor Fási m...@maerlyn.eu wrote: On 27 July 2012 13:15, Laupretre François francois.laupre...@francetv.fr wrote: How about using git for the actual documents too.. No better way to collaborate imho. Do you mean using github or integrating git VCS in a

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-27 Thread Sherif Ramadan
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Gábor Fási m...@maerlyn.eu wrote: On 27 July 2012 13:15, Laupretre François francois.laupre...@francetv.fr wrote: How about using git for the actual documents too.. No better way to

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! Secondly, I noticed that Python's PEPs are numbered, unlike PHP's RFCs. Whilst they aren't quite the same thing, I wonder if this would be useful, particularly since it provides a simple and unambiguous way to refer to one, e.g. RFC 123 instead of RFC on how to write an RFC. Why have

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Ryan McCue
Stas Malyshev wrote: Why have numbers if we can use URLs? URLs both uniquely identify the RFC and suggest what they are about. Can you say what PEP 410 is about? How about https://wiki.php.net/rfc/releaseprocess? That sounds way better, agreed. I have yet to meet one person who was confused

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi Andrew: On 25 Jul 2012, at 22:50, Andrew Faulds wrote: I think someone (perhaps me) should write an RFC on how to write an RFC Note that a new page create on the wiki in the RFC namespace comes with a template that gives some guidance on how to write an RFC. Lukas based it on my original

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
Hi Stefan, I made an RFC page on it. http://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto It's not really an RFC, more a meta-RFC or informational wiki page. It would helpful if you could edit it too. I just want to make an obvious go-to place for info on this. Thanks. On 26/07/12 08:49, Stefan Marr wrote: Hi

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Florian Anderiasch
On 07/26/2012 11:41 AM, Andrew Faulds wrote: Hi Stefan, I made an RFC page on it. http://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto It's not really an RFC, more a meta-RFC or informational wiki page. It would helpful if you could edit it too. I just want to make an obvious go-to place for info on this. What

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Lester Caine
Florian Anderiasch wrote: I made an RFC page on it.http://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto It's not really an RFC, more a meta-RFC or informational wiki page. It would helpful if you could edit it too. I just want to make an obvious go-to place for info on this. What I see as most in need of upgrade

RE: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Laupretre François
There was a time when one could have written an app for it in PHP ;) Right. We all know from the beginning that a wiki is better than nothing but, when the number of users/documents grows, it becomes very hard to keep the information up-to-date. Another problem is that documents and their

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 16:44, Laupretre François wrote: There was a time when one could have written an app for it in PHP ;) Right. We all know from the beginning that a wiki is better than nothing but, when the number of users/documents grows, it becomes very hard to keep the information up-to-date.

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Levi Morrison
I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has complete unit tests. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 18:46, Levi Morrison wrote: I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has complete unit tests. Welp, guess it's time for me to learn how to unit-test properly. -- Andrew Faulds http://ajf.me/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Kris Craig
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: On 26/07/12 18:46, Levi Morrison wrote: I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has complete unit tests. Welp, guess it's time for me to learn how to unit-test properly. -- Andrew Faulds

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 18:53, Kris Craig wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me mailto:a...@ajf.me wrote: On 26/07/12 18:46, Levi Morrison wrote: I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has complete unit tests.

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Evert Pot
On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Kris Craig wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: On 26/07/12 18:46, Levi Morrison wrote: I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has complete unit tests. Welp, guess it's time for me to learn how

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 19:11, Evert Pot wrote: On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Kris Craig wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: On 26/07/12 18:46, Levi Morrison wrote: I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has complete unit tests. Welp,

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 16:44, Laupretre François wrote: There was a time when one could have written an app for it in PHP ;) Right. We all know from the beginning that a wiki is better than nothing but, when the number of users/documents grows, it becomes very hard to keep the information up-to-date.

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Kris Craig
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: On 26/07/12 16:44, Laupretre François wrote: There was a time when one could have written an app for it in PHP ;) Right. We all know from the beginning that a wiki is better than nothing but, when the number of

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 20:58, Kris Craig wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me mailto:a...@ajf.me wrote: On 26/07/12 16:44, Laupretre François wrote: There was a time when one could have written an app for it in PHP ;) Right. We all

[PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-25 Thread Andrew Faulds
Hi there, First off I'd like to apologise for being a generally useless and overly reactive poster on this list. I'm going to exercise more self-constraint now after noticing I made more posts on this list this month than anyone else, this month. Anyway, onto the subject of this email, in

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-25 Thread Kris Craig
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: Hi there, First off I'd like to apologise for being a generally useless and overly reactive poster on this list. I'm going to exercise more self-constraint now after noticing I made more posts on this list this month than

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-25 Thread Ryan McCue
Andrew Faulds wrote: Secondly, I noticed that Python's PEPs are numbered, unlike PHP's RFCs. Whilst they aren't quite the same thing, I wonder if this would be useful, particularly since it provides a simple and unambiguous way to refer to one, e.g. RFC 123 instead of RFC on how to write an