Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] skipping optional parameters

2013-01-28 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
2012.04.20. 8:08, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com ezt írta: Hi! I can't estimate the amount of breakage, but what about using underscore (literal _) without quotation marks? This one is taken. See: http://us2.php.net/_ -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] skipping optional parameters

2013-01-28 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! what is the status of the rfc? were there any reasons why you didn't called for votes? Personally I would prefer named parameters also, and I think that we are too close to the 5.5 feature freeze, but somebody asked why did the progress stopped and I don't think that there were any

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] skipping optional parameters

2012-04-20 Thread Florian Anderiasch
On 04/18/2012 11:04 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: Hi! default is already a reserved keyword. It's used in switch constructs. So it is safe to use :) Ah, silly me, indeed it is. Then I guess it doesn't hurt to add it as an option. Will do. I can't estimate the amount of breakage, but what

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] skipping optional parameters

2012-04-20 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! I can't estimate the amount of breakage, but what about using underscore (literal _) without quotation marks? This one is taken. See: http://us2.php.net/_ -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] skipping optional parameters

2012-04-19 Thread Patrick ALLAERT
2012/4/18 Matthew Weier O'Phinney weierophin...@php.net: My one comment, which others have raised, is readability of multiple commas -- TBH, at first glance it has the appearance of a mistake. I think those suggesting a keyword such as default make a good point in this regard -- it makes it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] skipping optional parameters

2012-04-19 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
On 2012-04-19, Patrick ALLAERT patrickalla...@php.net wrote: 2012/4/18 Matthew Weier O'Phinney weierophin...@php.net : My one comment, which others have raised, is readability of multiple commas -- TBH, at first glance it has the appearance of a mistake. I think those suggesting a keyword

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] skipping optional parameters

2012-04-18 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
On 2012-04-17, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: One of the annoying things I've encountered in working with PHP was dealing with functions having long optional parameter lists, especially if you need to change only the last one - you have to copy all the defaults. Full named params

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] skipping optional parameters

2012-04-18 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! My one comment, which others have raised, is readability of multiple commas -- TBH, at first glance it has the appearance of a mistake. I think those suggesting a keyword such as default make a good point in this regard -- it makes it 100% clear that you want the default value I wouldn't

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] skipping optional parameters

2012-04-18 Thread Nikita Popov
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: Hi! My one comment, which others have raised, is readability of multiple commas -- TBH, at first glance it has the appearance of a mistake. I think those suggesting a keyword such as default make a good point in

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] skipping optional parameters

2012-04-18 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! default is already a reserved keyword. It's used in switch constructs. So it is safe to use :) Ah, silly me, indeed it is. Then I guess it doesn't hurt to add it as an option. Will do. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227 --