On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.com
wrote:
Kris,
As discussed on other threads, PHPP files that are called directly from
the
webserver are handled by the SAPI handler and thus
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:20 PM, John LeSueur john.lesu...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.com
wrote:
Kris,
As discussed on other threads, PHPP files that are
Kris Craig wrote:
I object significantly to a few points here. One is the concept of a
magic file extension. Why should a file behave differently just
because of a different extension? In general, extensions are human
readable clues to what's in the file. Yes, they are usually used for
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Kris Craig wrote:
I object significantly to a few points here. One is the concept of a
magic file extension. Why should a file behave differently just
because of a different extension? In general, extensions are
On 15/04/12 16:29, Kris Craig wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:20 PM, John LeSueur john.lesu...@gmail.comwrote:
The second thing that still needs nailing down as far as implementation is
how to determine parsing mode. If it has to be specified at include time,
then we're putting the burden
Am 15.04.2012 08:20, schrieb John LeSueur:
Since you're looking for input, specifically on the compromise, let's try
to figure out what's possible. The RFC proposes .phpp files that can only
include other .phpp files. Others want .phpp files that can include .php
files. There are two ways I can
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Jannik Zschiesche he...@apfelbox.netwrote:
Am 15.04.2012 08:20, schrieb John LeSueur:
Since you're looking for input, specifically on the compromise, let's try
to figure out what's possible. The RFC proposes .phpp files that can only
include other .phpp
Well, it's time for me to remind about the techique many use (and some
frameworks provide it out of the box) - the application file concatination
to speed up file loading.
Yii framework provides a Yiilite.php file for this, that includes mostly
used core classes in one big file.that loads much
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:44 AM, John LeSueur john.lesu...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Jannik Zschiesche he...@apfelbox.net
wrote:
Am 15.04.2012 08:20, schrieb John LeSueur:
Since you're looking for input, specifically on the compromise, let's
try
to figure out
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.comwrote:
Well, it's time for me to remind about the techique many use (and some
frameworks provide it out of the box) - the application file concatination
to speed up file loading.
Yii framework provides a Yiilite.php file
From: Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.com
To: Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com
Cc: PHP internals list internals@lists.php.net, Yasuo Ohgaki
yohg...@ohgaki.net
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:26:16 +0300
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] New .phpp File Type for Pure-Code PHP Scripts
Well, I just
Hi,
2012/4/15 Rasmus Schultz ras...@mindplay.dk:
the closing tag isn't even
required to begin with, so you can really think of ?php as a 5-byte
file-header.
If it is supposed to exist always at the beginning of files.
Anyway, file extension should not matter and it should be
a configuration
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Rasmus Schultz ras...@mindplay.dk wrote:
From: Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.com
To: Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com
Cc: PHP internals list internals@lists.php.net, Yasuo Ohgaki
yohg...@ohgaki.net
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:26:16 +0300
Subject:
Let me say that I've been following this thread for some time now and what I'm
seeing is a lot of poorly communicated ideas with very little thought
and a lot of
snappy retort.
We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Just because more immediate
concerns exist doesn't mean that looking at
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Sherif Ramadan theanomaly...@gmail.comwrote:
Let me say that I've been following this thread for some time now and what
I'm
seeing is a lot of poorly communicated ideas with very little thought
and a lot of
snappy retort.
We can walk and chew gum at the
Kris Craig wrote:
Please review these things, *then *post a response. Thank you.
If you want this SO badly, just fork a copy of PHP and implement it how you want
it. That is at least the good thing to come out of moving the code management
yet again ... if others want it as well they can
Kris,
It's worth noting that there are already two other similar RFCs that have
been proposed and other people have expressed interest in this idea. Most
of the opposition on this thread has come from 2 people, one of whom has
been mostly posting hyperbolic claims and scare tactics. There
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Kris Craig wrote:
Please review these things, *then *post a response. Thank you.
If you want this SO badly, just fork a copy of PHP and implement it how
you want it. That is at least the good thing to come out of
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.comwrote:
Kris,
It's worth noting that there are already two other similar RFCs that have
been proposed and other people have expressed interest in this idea.
Most
of the opposition on this thread has come from 2 people,
Please review these things, *then *post a response. Thank you.
--Kris
Alright, perhaps we should address one thing at a time. Since you feel
you are repeating yourself I will alleviate repetition with manageable
questions that are fair and concise. I start reading your RFC and the
very
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Sherif Ramadan theanomaly...@gmail.comwrote:
Please review these things, *then *post a response. Thank you.
--Kris
Alright, perhaps we should address one thing at a time. Since you feel
you are repeating yourself I will alleviate repetition with
Kris,
You do realize you just proved my point, right? I said that, because only a
small few people were actually participating in this thread, it would be
completely disingenuous for one side or the other to claim to represent the
majority opinion. The fact that you stepped in does not
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.comwrote:
Kris,
You do realize you just proved my point, right? I said that, because
only a
small few people were actually participating in this thread, it would be
completely disingenuous for one side or the other to
Kris,
As discussed on other threads, PHPP files that are called directly from the
webserver are handled by the SAPI handler and thus don't need any special
identification.
Except that they do. Right now, SAPI handlers just invoke PHP. So
there would need to be some way of communicating the
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.comwrote:
Kris,
As discussed on other threads, PHPP files that are called directly from
the
webserver are handled by the SAPI handler and thus don't need any special
identification.
Except that they do. Right now, SAPI
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