Re: [IPsec] Rename IKE_AUX?
Some other bike shed colours IKE_INIT_C - Init Continued IKE_INIT2 IKE_BE - Blob Exchange, Bulk Exchange IKE_LARGE IKE_BULK IKE_BIG_KE IKE_LARGE_KE I think IKE_SA_INIT is misnamed and should have been IKE_INIT, or IKE_AUTH should have been IKE_SA_AUTH :) I don't like IKE_CONT[INUE] because it might imply something after IKE is done. Similarly for IKE_SUPP is is midleading that it might be something in supplement of IKE. The same is true for IKE_AUX. But I don't care that much, just pick one. I don't object strongly to any name mentioned so far. I rather see people reading the whole draft carefully :) Paul ___ IPsec mailing list IPsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec
Re: [IPsec] Rename IKE_AUX?
I think IKE_SUPP is better compare to what have mentioned -Original Message- From: IPsec On Behalf Of CJ Tjhai Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 1:29 PM To: tpa...@apple.com Cc: ipsec@ietf.org; Valery Smyslov Subject: Re: [IPsec] Rename IKE_AUX? How about IKE_SUP or IKE_SUPP (for IKE_SUPPLEMENTARY)? On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:14, Tommy Pauly wrote: > > I agree that IKE_AUX can be easily confused with IKE_AUTH. Similarly, IKE_INT > looks a lot like the INIT from IKE_SA_INIT. > > I don't necessarily love IKE_PRE_AUTH, but it still seems preferable to the > other options. You could also spell out "intermediate" to have > IKE_INTERMEDIATE. This is still shorter than other existing exchange types, > like IKE_SESSION_RESUME. > > Thanks, > Tommy > > > On Nov 12, 2018, at 6:07 AM, Valery Smyslov wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm going to update IKE_AUX draft (in particular - change the way it > > is authenticated based on recent discussion with Scott). > > > > I recall that there were some complaints that the name IKE_AUX is > > not good because it can easily be mixed up with IKE_AUTH Actually, > > the phonetically close name was selected intentionally to show that > > these exchanges are related. However, I'm not a native speaker and > > not always can realize how good or bad this similarity sounds for a > > native ear. > > > > So, my question to WG - do we need to change the name? If yes, then > > to what? Possible variants - IKE_INT (intermediate), IKE_PRE_AUTH. > > Something else? > > > > Regards, > > Valery. > > > > ___ > > IPsec mailing list > > IPsec@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec > > ___ > IPsec mailing list > IPsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec ___ IPsec mailing list IPsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec ___ IPsec mailing list IPsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec
Re: [IPsec] Rename IKE_AUX?
How about IKE_SUP or IKE_SUPP (for IKE_SUPPLEMENTARY)? On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:14, Tommy Pauly wrote: > > I agree that IKE_AUX can be easily confused with IKE_AUTH. Similarly, IKE_INT > looks a lot like the INIT from IKE_SA_INIT. > > I don't necessarily love IKE_PRE_AUTH, but it still seems preferable to the > other options. You could also spell out "intermediate" to have > IKE_INTERMEDIATE. This is still shorter than other existing exchange types, > like IKE_SESSION_RESUME. > > Thanks, > Tommy > > > On Nov 12, 2018, at 6:07 AM, Valery Smyslov wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm going to update IKE_AUX draft (in particular - change the way > > it is authenticated based on recent discussion with Scott). > > > > I recall that there were some complaints that the name IKE_AUX > > is not good because it can easily be mixed up with IKE_AUTH > > Actually, the phonetically close name was selected intentionally > > to show that these exchanges are related. However, I'm not a native > > speaker and not always can realize how good or bad this similarity > > sounds for a native ear. > > > > So, my question to WG - do we need to change the name? If yes, > > then to what? Possible variants - IKE_INT (intermediate), IKE_PRE_AUTH. > > Something else? > > > > Regards, > > Valery. > > > > ___ > > IPsec mailing list > > IPsec@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec > > ___ > IPsec mailing list > IPsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec ___ IPsec mailing list IPsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec
Re: [IPsec] Rename IKE_AUX?
I agree that IKE_AUX can be easily confused with IKE_AUTH. Similarly, IKE_INT looks a lot like the INIT from IKE_SA_INIT. I don't necessarily love IKE_PRE_AUTH, but it still seems preferable to the other options. You could also spell out "intermediate" to have IKE_INTERMEDIATE. This is still shorter than other existing exchange types, like IKE_SESSION_RESUME. Thanks, Tommy > On Nov 12, 2018, at 6:07 AM, Valery Smyslov wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm going to update IKE_AUX draft (in particular - change the way > it is authenticated based on recent discussion with Scott). > > I recall that there were some complaints that the name IKE_AUX > is not good because it can easily be mixed up with IKE_AUTH > Actually, the phonetically close name was selected intentionally > to show that these exchanges are related. However, I'm not a native > speaker and not always can realize how good or bad this similarity > sounds for a native ear. > > So, my question to WG - do we need to change the name? If yes, > then to what? Possible variants - IKE_INT (intermediate), IKE_PRE_AUTH. > Something else? > > Regards, > Valery. > > ___ > IPsec mailing list > IPsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec ___ IPsec mailing list IPsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec
[IPsec] Rename IKE_AUX?
Hi, I'm going to update IKE_AUX draft (in particular - change the way it is authenticated based on recent discussion with Scott). I recall that there were some complaints that the name IKE_AUX is not good because it can easily be mixed up with IKE_AUTH Actually, the phonetically close name was selected intentionally to show that these exchanges are related. However, I'm not a native speaker and not always can realize how good or bad this similarity sounds for a native ear. So, my question to WG - do we need to change the name? If yes, then to what? Possible variants - IKE_INT (intermediate), IKE_PRE_AUTH. Something else? Regards, Valery. ___ IPsec mailing list IPsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec
