Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-27 Thread Ben Campbell
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 7:09 AM, Tero Kivinen wrote: > Substantive Comments: -3, first paragraph: Are people confident there will never, ever be a need to demux protocols other than IKE and ESP? If not, this approach may paint people in a corner in

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-27 Thread Tero Kivinen
Ben Campbell writes: > > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Tero Kivinen wrote: > > > > Ben Campbell writes: > >> -- > >> COMMENT: > >> -- > >> >

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-26 Thread Spencer Dawkins at IETF
On Apr 26, 2017 16:23, "Tommy Pauly" wrote: On Apr 26, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: On Apr 26, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF < spencerdawkins.i...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, Ben and Tommy, On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Ben Campbell

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-26 Thread Tommy Pauly
> On Apr 26, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > >> >> On Apr 26, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF >> wrote: >> >> Hi, Ben and Tommy, >> >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: >> >>> On Apr

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-26 Thread Ben Campbell
> On Apr 26, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF > wrote: > > Hi, Ben and Tommy, > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Tommy Pauly wrote: > > > > Hi Ben, > > > >

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-26 Thread Spencer Dawkins at IETF
Hi, Ben and Tommy, On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Tommy Pauly wrote: > > > > Hi Ben, > > > > Thanks for the comments! Your point about the line in Section 6 not > making sense is definitely a good

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-26 Thread Tommy Pauly
Hi Ben, Thanks for the comments! Your point about the line in Section 6 not making sense is definitely a good point. How about this text (changes in bold): If a TCP connection is being used to resume a previous IKE session, the TCP Responder can recognize the session using either the IKE SPI

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-26 Thread Ben Campbell
By the way, the DISCUSS vs COMMENT framing has gotten lost from the thread. Only the first point was part of the DISCUSS, the rest are non-binding comments. And I think the DISCUSS point is moving in the right direction, pending a text proposal. Thanks! Ben. > On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:57 AM,

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-26 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Kathleen Moriarty < kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Kathleen Moriarty > > wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Apr

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-26 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Kathleen Moriarty > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: >> > >> >> On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:38 PM,

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-26 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Kathleen Moriarty < kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > > > >> On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Kathleen Moriarty < > kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for the

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-26 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > >> On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Kathleen Moriarty >> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the quick response Paul, a few questions... >> >> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Paul Wouters

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-25 Thread Ben Campbell
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Kathleen Moriarty > wrote: > > Thanks for the quick response Paul, a few questions... > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: >> IIUC, the

Re: [IPsec] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2017-04-25 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Hi Ben & others, I may be able to help on a few of these, but the editors (etc.), please correct me if necessary. On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: Discuss > >