Re: IPv6-only residential service (MAP, lw4o6)

2014-12-06 Thread Lorenzo Colitti
They deployed 6rd as well, but not to that many users. I think it was not turned on by default or something. Another IPv6-only service here in Japan is v6 plus, which I believe is a derivative of MAP but with proprietary bits for authentication purposes. (The reason why IPv6-over-IPv4 is used

Re: IPv6-only residential service (MAP, lw4o6)

2014-12-06 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-12-06 17:45, Daniel Roesen wrote: On Sat, Dec 06, 2014 at 08:08:26PM +0900, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: It won't be easy to prove that DS-Lite is not being deployed, because there are some fairly large deployments in Germany (Kabel Deutschland and Unitymedia, both owned by Liberty Global).

Re: IPv6-only residential service (MAP, lw4o6)

2014-12-06 Thread Bjørn Mork
Yannis Nikolopoulos d...@otenet.gr writes: p.s: 464xlat was never considered because I always thought of it as a mobile solution. I don't see why. If you can enable some other tunnelling solution on the CPE, then 464xlat should also be an option? You still end up with the scaling challenge on

Re: IPv6-only residential service (MAP, lw4o6)

2014-12-06 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 07/12/2014 09:08, Ca By wrote: On Saturday, December 6, 2014, Yannis Nikolopoulos d...@otenet.gr wrote: Hello, IPv4-only CGN was never on the table to begin with. DS-lite doesn't seem to scale so well, that's why we were focusing on the more stateless approaches. We have I hear

IPv6-only residential service (MAP, lw4o6)

2014-12-05 Thread Yannis Nikolopoulos
Hello all, I'm wondering, have people deployed IPv6-only residential services? I know of a couple of DS-lite implementations, but we'd be more interested to hear about network operators deploying either MAP or lightweight 4over6 (not just trials though, but actual commercial services)

Re: IPv6-only residential service (MAP, lw4o6)

2014-12-05 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-12-05 14:30, Yannis Nikolopoulos wrote: Hello all, I'm wondering, have people deployed IPv6-only residential services? I know of a couple of DS-lite implementations, but we'd be more interested to hear about network operators deploying either MAP or lightweight 4over6 (not just

Re: IPv6-only residential service (MAP, lw4o6)

2014-12-05 Thread Yannis Nikolopoulos
On 12/05/2014 04:32 PM, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 03:30:41PM +0200, Yannis Nikolopoulos wrote: But I guess this sort of access is not what you had in mind... -is you're right :) cheers, Yannis