Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-11 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-11 16:00, Emanuel Popa wrote: Hi, Is there anyway to intentionally and immediately get on Google's DNS blacklist in order to avoid similar outages in the future affecting only IPv6 traffic? http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/ipv6/statistics/data/no_.txt Or maybe the smart

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-11 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 11/11/2014 15:00, Emanuel Popa wrote: Is there anyway to intentionally and immediately get on Google's DNS blacklist in order to avoid similar outages in the future affecting only IPv6 traffic? http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/ipv6/statistics/data/no_.txt Or maybe the smart thing to

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-11 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-11 19:09, Andras Toth wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Jeroen Massar jer...@massar.ch mailto:jer...@massar.ch wrote: If you expect that they have outages that they cannot quickly see or not, then you should also expect a blacklist like to be broken or not

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-10 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Lorenzo, Op 9 nov. 2014, om 22:10 heeft Lorenzo Colitti lore...@google.com het volgende geschreven: On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Jeroen Massar jer...@massar.ch wrote: The issue with IPv6 access to Google should now be resolved. Please let us know if you're still having problems.

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-10 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Philipp, Op 10 nov. 2014 om 21:09 heeft Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org het volgende geschreven: On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 07:36:22PM +0100, Sander Steffann wrote: I guess most users wouldn't really notice a 1-RTT delay. Depends on the RTT. In mobile networks it generally sucks. Good

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-09 Thread Daniel Austin
Hi, I've been having terrible connectivity to Google via IPv6 the last few days (i'd even resorted to using Bing!), but can confirm it is working fine for me today. Thanks, Dan. On 09/11/2014 06:26, Joe Hamelin wrote: Google did have some issues, look at the outage list. They are

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-09 10:42, Daniel Austin wrote: Hi, I've been having terrible connectivity to Google via IPv6 the last few days (i'd even resorted to using Bing!), but can confirm it is working fine for me today. It indeed is looking fine now for the Google problem. Now for Akamai to use their

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Tore Anderson
* Jeroen Massar On 2014-11-08 18:38, Tore Anderson wrote: Yannis: «We're enabling IPv6 on our CPEs» Jeroen: «And then getting broken connectivity to Google» I'm not a native speaker of English, but I struggle to understand it any other way than you're saying there's something broken

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Tore Anderson
* Nick Hilliard On 09/11/2014 11:00, Tore Anderson wrote: Only if Google and Akamai are universally broken, which does not seem to have been the case. I tested Google from the RING at 23:20 UTC yesterday: did you do a control run on a known working site? No. I feel that 250+ successes

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-09 12:00, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar On 2014-11-08 18:38, Tore Anderson wrote: Yannis: «We're enabling IPv6 on our CPEs» Jeroen: «And then getting broken connectivity to Google» I'm not a native speaker of English, but I struggle to understand it any other way than

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Job Snijders
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 08:03:01PM +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote: No. I feel that 250+ successes vs 10 failures is enough to conclude that Akamai and Google are *not* universally broken, far from it. Testing from colod boxes on well behaved networks (otherwise they would not know or be part

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Tore Anderson
* Jeroen Massar Testing from colod boxes on well behaved networks (otherwise they would not know or be part of the RING), while the problem lies with actual home users is quite a difference. So far you've been claiming that the problem lies with Google or Akamai. If true - and I don't dispute

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Doug Barton
On 11/9/14 12:27 PM, Tore Anderson wrote: So far you've been claiming that the problem lies with Google or Akamai. If true - and I don't dispute that it is - then testing from the RING should work just as well as from any home network. No, that's not true at all. Eyeball networks have very

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-09 22:10, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Jeroen Massar jer...@massar.ch mailto:jer...@massar.ch wrote: The issue with IPv6 access to Google should now be resolved. Please let us know if you're still having problems. The fun question of

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-09 21:27, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar Testing from colod boxes on well behaved networks (otherwise they would not know or be part of the RING), while the problem lies with actual home users is quite a difference. So far you've been claiming that the problem lies with

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-09 22:10, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar Also note that the Akamai problem (which still persists) is a random one. Hence fetching one URL is just a pure luck thing if it works or not. As a generic page has multiple objects though, you'll hit it much quicker. Hm. As I've

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-08 Thread sthaug
I'm not a native speaker of English, but I struggle to understand it any other way than you're saying there's something broken about Yannis' deployment. I mean, your reply wasn't even a standalone statement, but a continuation of Yannis' sentence. :-P That statement is correct though.

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-08 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey, I'm afraid I don't see the supporting evidence here. From my point of view, Google and Akamai IPv6 both work just fine. Concur. Both work just fine from my POV and I don't see lower than usual IPv6 traffic levels. -- tarko

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai

2014-11-08 Thread Joe Hamelin
Google did have some issues, look at the outage list. They are resolved now: Damian Menscher dam...@google.com 6:44 PM (3 hours ago) The issue with IPv6 access to Google should now be resolved. Please let us know if you're still having problems. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA,