Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-20 Thread Patrick Martin
Chuck, I have heard that 1660 Kansas City will be doing IBOC and they are Classical. You are right, the Hash is apart of the side band noise. As you tune the SPR4 from 800 to 820, the noise is the weakest right on 810, but it does not disappear. It is noticably there under the talk and it is not

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-19 Thread Scott Fybush
CHARLES HUTTON wrote: Scott: Can you explain a little more about the A-100? Station A's IBOC is designed to not bother an envelope detector receiving station A's analog as pains were taken to have IBOC present a constant envelope. Now there's obviously a problem here, so what'sgoing on

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-19 Thread Patrick Martin
Scott, I should have separated the issues, instead of putting them into one paragraph. I know the difference between the sideband hash and the hash on channel. But this on channel hash is really a BIG issue. Anyone outside the groundwave is going to have to deal with this bigtime. Not fun. I

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-19 Thread Patrick Martin
Scott, I guess it comes down to Does KGO care about their skywave listeners any longer? Maybe the hiss is not heard in the local bay area, but it sure affects the distant listeners. Believe me, the noise was enough to bother me, so it sure will bother the average listener at a distance. 73,

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-19 Thread Neil Kazaross
] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club ofAmerica irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc Pat: Not only skywave listeners, but listeners in fringe areas will suffer. By that I mean listeners at the edges of the normal

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Harms
Pat: Not only skywave listeners, but listeners in fringe areas will suffer. By that I mean listeners at the edges of the normal coverage area. These listeners which are an integral part of the market for many stations, will be turned off by the noise. Stations must be made aware of

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-19 Thread Patrick Martin
Bill, But will they care? Some have posted in the past that all the station cares about are their local audience. Whatever that means. But KGO has always cared about their long distance listeners. Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-19 Thread Chuck Hutton
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:40 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc I was listening to WBBM a few weeks ago when they had a news feed switching error and about 30 seconds dead air during which the splash from their IBOC

[IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-18 Thread Marty Rimpau
Hi all, I have recorded k g o's iboc, with my sony A100, and total recorder, at first, it didn't work, but when I selected on board sound, and my sound card, it worked, so I don't know how people actually wanted to have the demonstration done, so I left it on and went back and forth over the

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-18 Thread cafe
Hi all, I have recorded k g o's iboc, http://www.mindspring.com/~mrimpau/kgo_iboc.mp3 Wow. wow. wow. That sounds... awful underneath. Great recording BTW. wow. -- Colin Newell - Victoria B.C. Canada www.coffeecrew.com | www.dxer.ca ___ IRCA

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-18 Thread Scott Fybush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds... awful underneath. Great recording BTW. wow. Yes, it does - but again, that's with a Sony SRF-A100, one of a very, very tiny number of AM stereo radios that use an envelope detector that can't deal with the quadrature modulation that AM IBOC uses.

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-18 Thread Bill Harms
Scott, on the other hand, I clearly heard an annoying sound under WTWP/WTOP on my car radio (in a 2004 Dodge Stratus). I spoke with other people who also heard it on their car radios. My kids told me to turn it off because it was so annoying. We concluded it sounded a bit like the 17-year

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-18 Thread Patrick Martin
Scott, What I was using this morning was the Drake SPR4 from 1971. A few months back when KGO was testing IBOC after Midnight, I heard the Hash under their signal on the R8 too. I did not try the R8 this morning however, but I would be surprised if it would have sounded any different. If the IBOC

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-18 Thread Patrick Martin
Bill, OK, that is exactly the noise I am talking about. If your kids could not take the noise, then how many others will not listen to it either? It really sounds like KGO is really in trouble unless they either fix the issue or shut the IBOC off. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception

Re: [IRCA] recorded the iboc

2007-02-18 Thread Scott Fybush
Patrick Martin wrote: What I was using this morning was the Drake SPR4 from 1971. A few months back when KGO was testing IBOC after Midnight, I heard the Hash under their signal on the R8 too. I did not try the R8 this morning however, but I would be surprised if it would have sounded any