Re: [isabelle-dev] AFP devel broken

2012-11-29 Thread Gerwin Klein
On 29/11/2012, at 11:47 PM, Christian Sternagel wrote: > On 11/09/2012 12:26 AM, Christian Sternagel wrote: >> Just follow the "Browse theories" link of any devel entry, e.g., >> http://afp.sourceforge.net/browser_info/devel/HOL/Bondy/index.html > As far as I can tell the problem still remains. I

Re: [isabelle-dev] HOL-Quickcheck_Benchmark timeouts

2012-11-29 Thread Lukas Bulwahn
On 11/29/2012 06:27 PM, Makarius wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Makarius wrote: In the past few weeks, we've had isatest problems with HOL-Quickcheck_Benchmark and ISABELLE_FULL_TEST=true (as used with mac-poly64-M4 and mac-poly64-M8). After some experimentation and tinkering, it seems that the

Re: [isabelle-dev] HOL-Quickcheck_Benchmark timeouts

2012-11-29 Thread Lukas Bulwahn
On 11/29/2012 10:22 PM, Makarius wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Makarius wrote: I've also started some bisection about where the problem comes from, without any clear results so far, but I will report more a bit later. I've spent a few more hours on the problem, repeating the bisection several

Re: [isabelle-dev] HOL-Quickcheck_Benchmark timeouts

2012-11-29 Thread Makarius
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Makarius wrote: I've also started some bisection about where the problem comes from, without any clear results so far, but I will report more a bit later. I've spent a few more hours on the problem, repeating the bisection several times, and staring add various changesets

Re: [isabelle-dev] HOL-Quickcheck_Benchmark timeouts

2012-11-29 Thread Makarius
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Makarius wrote: In the past few weeks, we've had isatest problems with HOL-Quickcheck_Benchmark and ISABELLE_FULL_TEST=true (as used with mac-poly64-M4 and mac-poly64-M8). After some experimentation and tinkering, it seems that the timeouts in Isabelle/978200ae8473 from

Re: [isabelle-dev] Towards the next release

2012-11-29 Thread Makarius
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Lawrence Paulson wrote: Will it run without compiled files? And will it run efficiently enough? Certainly I've always compiled my copy. On 21 Nov 2012, at 10:35, Makarius wrote: * A version of Proof General as Isabelle component, like http://isabelle.in.tum.de/compo

Re: [isabelle-dev] Towards the next release

2012-11-29 Thread Lawrence Paulson
Will it run without compiled files? And will it run efficiently enough? Certainly I've always compiled my copy. Larry On 21 Nov 2012, at 10:35, Makarius wrote: > * A version of Proof General as Isabelle component, like >http://isabelle.in.tum.de/components/ProofGeneral-4.1.tar.gz >(it

Re: [isabelle-dev] Reasons mira crashes

2012-11-29 Thread Makarius
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Makarius wrote: The slight tendency away from Python APIs is another thing. Since Isabelle/Scala is the official system programming language for quite some time already, I've occasionally checked the situation for JVM-based access to Mercurial operations. Projects like h

[isabelle-dev] Sledgehammer machine learning

2012-11-29 Thread Jasmin Blanchette
Hi all, As you might already know, Daniel Kühlwein (a Ph.D. student of Josef Urban) and I have been working on a machine-learning based relevance filter for Sledgehammer, called MaSh. The idea is to learn from successful proofs which facts are more likely to be useful for future proofs. We are lo

Re: [isabelle-dev] AFP devel broken

2012-11-29 Thread Christian Sternagel
On 11/09/2012 12:26 AM, Christian Sternagel wrote: Just follow the "Browse theories" link of any devel entry, e.g., http://afp.sourceforge.net/browser_info/devel/HOL/Bondy/index.html As far as I can tell the problem still remains. Is it known in the meantime what the problem is? cheers chris

Re: [isabelle-dev] [OT] Reasons mira crashes

2012-11-29 Thread Makarius
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Lars Noschinski wrote: On 29.11.2012 12:13, Makarius wrote: Does JGit work smoothly on Windows, for example? In Isabelle/Scala I play more and more funny tricks to get rid of the received Unix model of executing some process to do small auxiliary things. I would expect so

Re: [isabelle-dev] [OT] Reasons mira crashes

2012-11-29 Thread Lars Noschinski
On 29.11.2012 12:13, Makarius wrote: Does JGit work smoothly on Windows, for example? In Isabelle/Scala I play more and more funny tricks to get rid of the received Unix model of executing some process to do small auxiliary things. I would expect so: JGit is a pure Java implementation, not usin

Re: [isabelle-dev] [OT] Reasons mira crashes

2012-11-29 Thread Makarius
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Lars Noschinski wrote: The slight tendency away from Python APIs is another thing. Since Isabelle/Scala is the official system programming language for quite some time already, I've occasionally checked the situation for JVM-based access to Mercurial operations. Projects l

[isabelle-dev] [OT] Reasons mira crashes

2012-11-29 Thread Lars Noschinski
On 29.11.2012 11:49, Makarius wrote: For future changes it might be worth to keep in mind that the Mercurial project considers the python interface as internal: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MercurialApi Right. This classification has somehow changed over the years. Back in 2008, use of th

Re: [isabelle-dev] Reasons mira crashes

2012-11-29 Thread Makarius
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Lars Noschinski wrote: I now wanted to suggest isabelle.in.tum.de as an obvious choice for a gateway host, but it is not reachable via SSH from the outside =) In ancient times isabelle.in.tum.de was indeed just an alias, say for sunbroy60. So one had everything physicall

Re: [isabelle-dev] Reasons mira crashes

2012-11-29 Thread Makarius
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Lars Noschinski wrote: Since some time they also provide hosting of mercurial repositories. This is what I meant by "home-made". Makarius ___ isabelle-dev mailing list isabelle-...@in.tum.de https://mailmanbroy.informat

Re: [isabelle-dev] Reasons mira crashes

2012-11-29 Thread Makarius
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Alexander Krauss wrote: For future changes it might be worth to keep in mind that the Mercurial project considers the python interface as internal: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MercurialApi Right. This classification has somehow changed over the years. Back in 2008

Re: [isabelle-dev] Reasons mira crashes

2012-11-29 Thread Lars Noschinski
On 29.11.2012 11:28, Makarius wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Lars Noschinski wrote: We could make up a rule "always go through host X" (X being one of the macbroys/lxbroys) and hope it is the simultaneous access from multiple hosts and not the fact that it is laying on a NFS which makes it unreliab

Re: [isabelle-dev] Reasons mira crashes

2012-11-29 Thread Makarius
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Lars Noschinski wrote: So we still carry a lot of CVS baggage stemming from 1993, not just in the low-level technological sense. Nothing new, all known already. I usually ignore it to avoid the trouble of thinking about more fundamental changes. We could make up a rule "a