Nathan Meyers wrote:
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> Jonathan Mark Brooks wrote:
> >
> > I suspect that they didn't get the point. What people are asking for is
> > that the graphical elements of java be implemented with GTK+ rather than
> > Motif or some other platform specific GUI kit (GTK exists for win32 now as
> > wel
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Robb Shecter wrote:
> Is it me, or did the original question get kind of lost here. :)
The original question was originally answered at the beginning of
this thread.
> So the question is whether some runtime-license-free library could be used
> instead. Is this possible?
Ye
What about using lesstif?
It's supposed to be compatible with motif, and free.
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Hi,
Is it me, or did the original question get kind of lost here. :)
To me, the issue isn't so much whether AWT is great or not, or whether it should
still be used...
The problem is that at some point, Motif calls must be made from Java/Linux, and
thus the motif library must be there. And, for
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Subject: Re: Non mofit AWT.
Author: memmel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) at lon-mime
Date:06/04/99 12:43
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Java to have it own windowing system"
>
> H ... Well I think it needs to write a some new API calls like belo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Java to have it own windowing system"
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> H ... Well I think it needs to write a some new API calls like below:
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> void java.awt.Frame.iconifyWindow()
> " java.awt.Frame.deiconifyWindow()
> " java.awt.Frame.raiseWindow()
> java.awt.Frame.low
wt.Frame.lowerWindow()
java.awt.Frame.raiseToFrontWindow()
java.awt.Frame.lowerToBackWindow()
int java.awt.Frame.getStackingOrder()
Non of these programmatics exists (yet) to support the native window manager.
Peter
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Nigel Gamble wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Michael Emmel wrote:
> > The next thing I did was write a driver in Java for the CirrusLogic 5430 and
> > got IFC then JFC running on it.
> > It wasn't much slower than Swing on top of a Windowing system and this was on
> > a fully interpeted.
> > I unro
On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Michael Emmel wrote:
> The next thing I did was write a driver in Java for the CirrusLogic 5430 and
> got IFC then JFC running on it.
> It wasn't much slower than Swing on top of a Windowing system and this was on
> a fully interpeted.
> I unrolled the blit loops and it helped
Jeff Galyan wrote:
> It's interesting to me that so many people have found Swing slow, while
> my experience has been opposite (I wonder if I have something set up
> differently on my system or something...). I do see how it can be slower
Build a JFrame, give it a JDesktopPane, and add some JIn
Jeff Galyan wrote:
> AWT on top of Swing sounds pretty interesting...
>
> Netscape's IFC basically do everything on top of a Panel (faster than
> Swing for many uses), so that's another alternative.
Way back when I started with the IFC on NeXT's(RIP) Display postscript
engine.
Then JFC came out
It's interesting to me that so many people have found Swing slow, while
my experience has been opposite (I wonder if I have something set up
differently on my system or something...). I do see how it can be slower
than AWT, since it doesn't use any native peers. Swing's slow
performance can be att
AWT on top of Swing sounds pretty interesting...
Netscape's IFC basically do everything on top of a Panel (faster than
Swing for many uses), so that's another alternative.
--Jeff
Michael Emmel wrote:
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> Ulli Kortenkamp wrote:
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> > > "Jeff" == Jeff Galyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Jonathan Mark Brooks wrote:
> I suspect that they didn't get the point. What people are asking for is
> that the graphical elements of java be implemented with GTK+ rather than
> Motif or some other platform specific GUI kit (GTK exists for win32 now as
> well...). Even Swing
Jonathan Mark Brooks wrote:
>
> I suspect that they didn't get the point. What people are asking for is
> that the graphical elements of java be implemented with GTK+ rather than
> Motif or some other platform specific GUI kit (GTK exists for win32 now as
> well...). Even Swing must at some lev
I suspect that they didn't get the point. What people are asking for is
that the graphical elements of java be implemented with GTK+ rather than
Motif or some other platform specific GUI kit (GTK exists for win32 now as
well...). Even Swing must at some level call on GUI elements that are
coded
My understanding is that Netscape will be using GTK+ instead of Motif
for Netscape 5.0 (which may explain why they are slow to get it out) so
Sun may already be considering this (save those license fees).
Someone should ask. Couldn't hurt.
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Jeff Galyan wrote:
> That's a ques
Ulli Kortenkamp wrote:
> > "Jeff" == Jeff Galyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Jeff> That's a question you should pose to Sun. Matthew Panetta
> Jeff> wrote:
> >> Given that there are a few good windowing toolkit out now for
> >> linux (GTK, QT, JX) could the JDK be proted
> "Jeff" == Jeff Galyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jeff> That's a question you should pose to Sun. Matthew Panetta
Jeff> wrote:
>> Given that there are a few good windowing toolkit out now for
>> linux (GTK, QT, JX) could the JDK be proted to these instead of
>> useing
That's a question you should pose to Sun.
Matthew Panetta wrote:
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> Given that there are a few good windowing toolkit out now for linux (GTK,
> QT, JX) could the JDK be proted to these instead of useing mofit?
>
> Regards Matt
>
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I believe the classpath project is working on a gtk based set of peers
that can be used as a drop-in replacement for the current motif ones
(though they aren't finished yet).
Maksim.
Matthew Panetta wrote:
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> Given that there are a few good windowing toolkit out now for linux (GTK,
> QT, JX) c
Given that there are a few good windowing toolkit out now for linux (GTK,
QT, JX) could the JDK be proted to these instead of useing mofit?
Regards Matt
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