[The Java Posse] Re: 64bit Linux and Java

2008-11-16 Thread Joshua Marinacci
The issue with the plugin is having a browser that matches your JRE. The new browser plugin technology in JavaSE 6 update 10 suggests a solution. Since the JRE is now run out of process the VM and the browser don't have to match. A 32bit browser could use either a 32bit VM or 64bit VM, and

[The Java Posse] Re: 64bit Linux and Java

2008-11-16 Thread Marcelo Fukushima
i think those issues are being resolved i've ran into this blog entry a while back: http://blog.juma.me.uk/2008/10/14/32-bit-or-64-bit-jvm-how-about-a-hybrid/ On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Jess Holle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Two things: > > There are cases where one needs 64-bit, even f

[The Java Posse] Re: 64bit Linux and Java

2008-11-16 Thread Jess Holle
Two things: 1. There are cases where one needs 64-bit, even for a desktop application (think engineering apps). * Embed a browser in one of these and you suddenly /really /want a 64-bit Java Plug-In. 2. The size of the impact of 64-bit pointers has been worked aro

[The Java Posse] Re: 64bit Linux and Java

2008-11-16 Thread Casper Bang
You can't confirm or deny, that it will happen with update 12? ;) /Casper On Nov 16, 9:02 pm, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Absolutely. And for many programs this is awesome. But for many   > others, such as your typical browser or desktop based app that spends   > 99% of it's ti

[The Java Posse] Re: 64bit Linux and Java

2008-11-16 Thread Joshua Marinacci
Absolutely. And for many programs this is awesome. But for many others, such as your typical browser or desktop based app that spends 99% of it's time waiting on user input, it's overkill. I don't want to dis 64bit computing. I just want to explain that, like any engineering decision, it

[The Java Posse] Re: 64bit Linux and Java

2008-11-16 Thread Casper Bang
Yeah but memory is dirt cheap and it's now almost a decade ago 64bit x86 CPU's were introduced. The beauty of 64bit is that many operations which had to be broken up in composites on 32bit (i.e. on long and double) can now be done in one go by the JVM. This has performance impacts but probably mor

[The Java Posse] Re: 64bit Linux and Java

2008-11-16 Thread Joshua Marinacci
Keep in mind that going 64bit means many memory structures double in size. 64bit is great for certain applications that really need to access more than 4GB of memory, but for most applications (particularly desktop apps) it's overkill that wastes memory. - J On Nov 14, 2008, at 11:53 PM,

[The Java Posse] Episode 215: Traffic info based on telco provider info-> TomTom HD Traffic

2008-11-16 Thread Gero
Hi, In Episode 215 there was a discussion about an ME app that would sent out GPS location/speed info which is then used to identify traffic jams etc. A suggestion was made that this information should not be provided by the ME app, but simply acquired from the Telco providers... well, such a sol

[The Java Posse] GlassFish v3 Prelude is a supported version

2008-11-16 Thread Alexis MP
Hi, Thanks for mentioning the release of GlassFish v3 Prelude in #217. I just wanted to say that this is a fully supported version, not a beta or a preview. Maybe our choice of "Prelude" to define a release that is not a fully certified Java EE app server wasn't as good as an innovation as the ot