> There is however, a very big difference between looking at a language
> change from the perspective of a language implementor vs a language
> user. In any case, I look forward to our discussion!
And I look forward to listening!
>
> - Joe (the other Joe)
>
> On Sep 2, 8:44 pm, jddarcy wrote:
I am looking forward to our discussion in person hopefully tomorrow
(Wed) after the languages summit. We'll bring a recorder, of course
so the listeners get the benefit of hearing you directly. We're all
huge fans of yours Joe, but of us 4 - probably Carl is the only one
you could label as a "co
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Casper Bang wrote:
> Well no matter how you cut it, the amount of stuff that has been
> dropped is staggering
>
Well, I find the amount of stuff that's going in to the language in Java 7
to be staggering and even worrying. You could say we're looking at a bigger
Just to add to what Kirk said, there is a NetBeans profiler hand-on lab
that shows how
you can do what he suggested.
http://www.javapassion.com/handsonlabs/nbprofilerperformance/index.html
This is part of the following online course
http://www.javapassion.com/javaperformance/#Topics
-Sang
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Casper Bang wrote:
>
> > Also, Java 7 isn't the end of the line. Just because a feature
> > doesn't make it into 7 doesn't mean it will never make it in.
> > Neal has also stated here and on other blogs
>
> Well no matter how you cut it, the amount of stuff that h
> Also, Java 7 isn't the end of the line. Just because a feature
> doesn't make it into 7 doesn't mean it will never make it in.
> Neal has also stated here and on other blogs
Well no matter how you cut it, the amount of stuff that has been
dropped is staggering and a prospect of JDK8 in another
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Dick Wall wrote:
> Firstly, perhaps folks out to go back and listen to the first 20
> minutes of episode 277. The emphasis of that discussion was in no way
> bullying anyone from the pulpit, not negative in context, it was more
> of a "hey, isn't this Lombok a cle
On Sep 1, 8:51 am, Michael Bien wrote:
> Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
> > mbien wrote:
>
> >> Hi Fabrizio,
>
> >> I 'll work on a JNI/GlueGen basedOpenCLbinding toJavaas part of my
> >> bachelor thesis. If everything works well it will be an optional
> >> extension of JSR231 aka JOGL (and will also fu
where i work, we use an isolated (non virtual) hudson for performance
test. its an old machine, but we're only interested on relative times
(each run takes around 6 times). you might want to virtualize the os's
and use hudson locks.
On 9/16/09, Patrick wrote:
>
> You might take a look at Japex,
there's a jvm argument that makes it dump the heap on OOME. i use that
as a starting point and either jhat or visualvm to analyze it...
On 9/16/09, kirk wrote:
>
> kittu wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I facing the problem of out of memory and fatal shutdown of the
>> device, in the logs i not able to find a
kittu wrote:
> Hi
>
> I facing the problem of out of memory and fatal shutdown of the
> device, in the logs i not able to find any clue regards memory
> increament continuosly. the device is down after few days due to
> continuous memory usage increment >256MB (actually 60 -90MB
> acceptable).
>
>
I think it might be time for a bit of a reset of this thread, since it
seems to have wandered off into the rough.
Firstly, perhaps folks out to go back and listen to the first 20
minutes of episode 277. The emphasis of that discussion was in no way
bullying anyone from the pulpit, not negative in
Unfortunatly, that is a known bug in the current version of the
eclipse plugin, rendering it pretty much useless (at least in this
release).
Use the axis2 shell or batch utilities to generate the wsdl instead.
On Sep 15, 4:04 pm, WebServicesNewbie wrote:
> Any one have experience with Axis 2 cod
Dick,
It really irks me to see you bully Joe from your pulpit like this.
Comparing your job to his is comparing apples to oranges. I'm quite
certain you wouldn't get paid to work on your *closed source* product
if it didn't make a profit. The fact is, Sun doesn't profit from
adding features to th
Joe,
I seemed to have failed in the intention of my post. I was trying to
be constructive and offer a way forward; but all I seem to have done
is upset you, this was not my intention.
I think there is an ever increasing feeling that Java is stagnating,
and as a consequence many people, including
Not to be an asshole or anything, but was google broken?
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:58 AM, kittu wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I facing the problem of out of memory and fatal shutdown of the
> device, in the logs i not able to find any clue regards memory
> increament continuosly. the device is down after fe
If you are on Java 1.6.7+ (I think this is the version that it was released
on), then you can use the jvisualvm command. As with any tool, it has its
limits. However, you can get a heap dump, which will then show you how many
times a particular object is created/destroyed, how it was used, etc.
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
>
> Oh, I'm sure it's difficult. None of that changes the fact that we're
> all perfectly capable of judging new language features with:
>
> - a readable description that is NOT up to JLS standard.
>
Sections from the Project Coin pro
Any one have experience with Axis 2 code generator eclipse plug in.
I am getting a java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException when trying
to
generate wsdl from the source. Help!
Thanks,
Sonia
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Hi
I facing the problem of out of memory and fatal shutdown of the
device, in the logs i not able to find any clue regards memory
increament continuosly. the device is down after few days due to
continuous memory usage increment >256MB (actually 60 -90MB
acceptable).
is any way to debug this sce
You might take a look at Japex, which was developed at Sun for
benchmarking some of the XML libraries. It offers a harness in which
you can run tests and gives you a sort of framework by which to handle
initialization and warmup issues, plus it can compare between runs and
against a baseline. I do
Oh, I'm sure it's difficult. None of that changes the fact that we're
all perfectly capable of judging new language features with:
- a readable description that is NOT up to JLS standard.
- a thorough pros and cons list
- plenty of 'real life' examples, preferably not constructed just to
highl
Yep. Pretty much you need to create a hudson slave just for running
your tests. Tests should always be run on an isolated server.
Fortunately Hudson makes this pretty easy.
- Josh
On Sep 15, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
>
> Robert Casto wrote:
>> That depends of course on what
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Vince O'Sullivan wrote:
>
> On Sep 15, 12:30 am, jddarcy wrote:
> > My message announcing the final five makes clear that this
> > decision was made based on resourcing concerns rather than the merits
> > of the idea itself.
>
> Whilst acknowledging the 'real worl
Robert Casto wrote:
> That depends of course on what you are trying to do.
>
> Joshua wants to measure average system performance while things are
> humming along.
>
> If you want to know how long it takes to startup, then you keep the
> data. I tend to separate the two in reports I give to comp
I'm guessing you are looking for something free, but QTP does a pretty good
job and has adapters for lots of different environments. If you fail to find
a free option, you could look into it. I have used it before when doing
performance testing on a Java Swing application. It works which is about a
Yep. It all depends in what you are trying to measure.
- Josh, on the go
On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Robert Casto
wrote:
> That depends of course on what you are trying to do.
>
> Joshua wants to measure average system performance while things are
> humming along.
>
> If you want to know h
I tried that, but the app does not work at all in FF so I can not record and
have to write everything by hand unless I missed something in Selenium to
record in IE.
Ruben
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Robert Casto wrote:
> You can make Selenium work for IE but it requires more effort. It is
You can make Selenium work for IE but it requires more effort. It is 100%
Javascript and you just have to work harder to make it play nice.
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Ruben Reusser wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we have to build a test suite that tests an existing web application - the
> application onl
Hi,
we have to build a test suite that tests an existing web application - the
application only runs in IE and I was wondering if any of you have a
suggestion what test framework to use.
Thanks
Ruben
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That depends of course on what you are trying to do.
Joshua wants to measure average system performance while things are humming
along.
If you want to know how long it takes to startup, then you keep the data. I
tend to separate the two in reports I give to companies. Very different work
is done
Interesting, but don't you think that for certain situations, throwing away
results that might be affected by start-up times is the exact wrong thing to do?
Alexey
From: Joshua Marinacci
To: javaposse@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:43
When performance testing the client JRE we do two things which seem to
help:
1) check out both the latest and your older / baseline releases of
your code. Test them *both*. This lets you plot how you have improved,
regardless of what computer your tests are running on. It's also the
only
> Where coin went a bit wrong, I think, is in how you required more work
> from the community than what you require internally. I presume when
> (outside of coin) sun employees decide on java features to add to the
> language, they first do some analysis of which ones are worth it, pick
> one, nai
On Sep 15, 12:30 am, jddarcy wrote:
> My message announcing the final five makes clear that this
> decision was made based on resourcing concerns rather than the merits
> of the idea itself.
Whilst acknowledging the 'real world' constraints of limited
resources; I'm curious about the fact that i
Hi Friends,
I have to develop this progem and I need some expert to advise me on this..
Consider an SMTP server that sends an email via relay method. In this relay,
it accesses multiple IP addresses and then sends to the receiver.
I want to track this entire activity via java networking(maybe c
Working with imaging, I came to the conclusion that I need continuous
performance testing more than one year ago
(http://netbeans.dzone.com/news/stopwatches-anyone-or-about-co). Of
course, the idea is not mine, but seems surprisingly "old" (2003,
http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/16755). As you
Your complaints about community whining (defined as: People who want
language changes but do not offer to do the work) is entirely
justified.
Where coin went a bit wrong, I think, is in how you required more work
from the community than what you require internally. I presume when
(outside of coin
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