Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

[Adrian Spratt]

I don't doubt you, either. I can say only that the few times I was stuck using 
JAWS in demo mode, I had to adjust speed and other functions back to my comfort 
level each time it reloaded. Perhaps I was using the terms "personal settings," 
as in ENU settings, too loosely. Is that consistent with your experience? 
Otherwise, as Eric, you and others have said, JAWS is just about fully 
functional in demo mode. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 7:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Can you confirm this statement? My findings are not the same. I am not doubting 
you, just checking is all.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Of course, any personal settings, etc., will not be preserved session to 
session.

-Original Message-
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Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Yes, absolutely with the exception of the demo version can not host a tandem 
session, although it can be a client in such an animal.

-Original Message-
From: Donna
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Hi

Does anyone know if the demo version of Jaws is a fully functioning version of 
Jaws with the exception that the demo runs only for 40 minute intervals?

Thanks!

Donna

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

[David Ferrin]

Hi Eric, glad I got your account figured out. Neither of us thought about 
you changing email addresses.


-Original Message- 
From: Eric Damery

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 7:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

It is fully functional. Vocalized synths and OCR plus Tandem everything but 
Citrix support.

Regards,
Eric



On Mar 11, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Donna  wrote:

Hi

Does anyone know if the demo version of Jaws is a fully functioning 
version of Jaws with the exception that the demo runs only for 40 minute 
intervals?


Thanks!

Donna

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

[Eric Damery]

It is fully functional. Vocalized synths and OCR plus Tandem everything but 
Citrix support. 
Regards,
Eric


> On Mar 11, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Does anyone know if the demo version of Jaws is a fully functioning version 
> of Jaws with the exception that the demo runs only for 40 minute intervals?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Donna
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] text as an image

[Reed]

Once the OCR is finished, you are placed in the virtual window where you can 
select parts or the entire text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into 
another application's editor window.  After pasting, you'll have to take care 
of formatting.

Reed 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: March 11, 2017 3:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] text as an image

Hi Wayne,

Yes, pressing the letter, D, wil OCR a PDF document, but I've never tried 
saving 1 in a different format, so someone else will have to verify that. 
For those that would like to know more about OCR & Layered Keystrokes read 
below.

here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

[David Ferrin]

Can you confirm this statement? My findings are not the same. I am not 
doubting you, just checking is all.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Of course, any personal settings, etc., will not be preserved session to 
session.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Yes, absolutely with the exception of the demo version can not host a tandem 
session, although it can be a client in such an animal.


-Original Message-
From: Donna
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Hi

Does anyone know if the demo version of Jaws is a fully functioning version 
of Jaws with the exception that the demo runs only for 40 minute intervals?


Thanks!

Donna

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

[LeDon]

If you are using research it you should know that it is not reliable. It is
a service provided by jaws  but it is not supported. It will work when they
set it up but every time the website changes the way things are done on
their sight research it will no longer work. Since Jaws does not provide
anyone to support this between releases research it is not updated as
website change. It would seem to me that if they are not going to support
something they would not offer it because when it quits working they are
going to have a bunch of unhappy campers on their hands. Instead of relying
on research it is just as useful to go to the site yourself and fight with
the changes as they come about. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

It's not working on the computer here either. Any suggestions for other
quick searches on the computer? Could it be that the research feature for
weather is having an issue? I know this has happened before.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "Luis Guerra" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed


> Try completely accessible, braille.wunderground.com
>
> On 3/10/2017 3:06 PM, Rose wrote:
>> Wunderground seems the same, although I can't get the table with 
>> temperature
>> etc. to read right, did it before but computer was repaired and settings
>> lost.  However Research It is not working which has been the site I use 
>> the
>> most.  I do get annoyed when there is some sort of warning and the 
>> forecast
>> is lost but it is a great place to look a temperature in the morning and
>> decide to dress accordingly.
>>
>> Rose Combs
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Shane Hecker
>> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:45 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed
>>
>> Looks like Weather Underground has changed and the mobile site is either
>> down or no longer available. When I go to m.wund.com, it pulls up the 
>> full
>> desktop site. Additionally, when I try to do a lookup using the weather
>> research-it feature, it says it can't find any results.
>>
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

[Hans Pauli Sundstein]

Hi Donna.

If you install a full package of Jaws on a computer, without a licence, Jaws 
will run in 40 minute mode every time the computer is rebooted.


Be aware of, that many computers with Windows 10 are set up to only goto 
sleep mode when shutdown the computer, and Jaws will therefor not work after 
a new start of the computer.
Goto power management to change this, so the computer really shut's down 
when selecting this, and get a fresh start of windows, when turning on again 
and Jaws will run in 40 minute mode.


Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
Fra: Donna

Dato: 11. marts 2017 23:18
Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Emne: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Hi

Does anyone know if the demo version of Jaws is a fully functioning version 
of Jaws with the exception that the demo runs only for 40 minute intervals?


Thanks!

Donna

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Re: [JAWS-Users] text as an image

[Mike B.]

Hi Wayne,

Yes, pressing the letter, D, wil OCR a PDF document, but I've never tried 
saving 1 in a different format, so someone else will have to verify that. 
For those that would like to know more about OCR & Layered Keystrokes read 
below.

here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

[David Ferrin]

Yes, absolutely with the exception of the demo version can not host a tandem 
session, although it can be a client in such an animal.


-Original Message- 
From: Donna

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Hi

Does anyone know if the demo version of Jaws is a fully functioning version 
of Jaws with the exception that the demo runs only for 40 minute intervals?


Thanks!

Donna

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Re: [JAWS-Users] text as an image

[Adrian Spratt]

Yes, d for document, which is my own preference. But you can't choose the 
resulting format.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] text as an image

Hey Mike.  Is there a "d" command as well to convert the entire document?  If 
this is possible, can that converted doc be saved as a MS Word or .txt doc?

Wayne

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Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] text as an image

Hi Kevin,

Press, Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, to start OCR, then, either, S or W, 
to OCR either the current screen or window.
Take care.
Mike
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From: Kevin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] text as an image


how do I use the jaws OCR
someone sent me an image with text in it and I’d like jaws to read it to me!
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

[Adrian Spratt]

Of course, any personal settings, etc., will not be preserved session to 
session.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Yes, absolutely with the exception of the demo version can not host a tandem 
session, although it can be a client in such an animal.

-Original Message-
From: Donna
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Hi

Does anyone know if the demo version of Jaws is a fully functioning version of 
Jaws with the exception that the demo runs only for 40 minute intervals?

Thanks!

Donna

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Re: [JAWS-Users] text as an image

[wayne smith]

Hey Mike.  Is there a "d" command as well to convert the entire document?  If 
this is possible, can that converted doc be saved as a MS Word or .txt doc?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] text as an image

Hi Kevin,

Press, Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, to start OCR, then, either, S or W, 
to OCR either the current screen or window.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Kevin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] text as an image


how do I use the jaws OCR
someone sent me an image with text in it and I’d like jaws to read it to me!
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] text as an image

[Mike B.]

Hi Kevin,

Press, Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, to start OCR, then, either, S or 
W, to OCR either the current screen or window.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Kevin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] text as an image


how do I use the jaws OCR
someone sent me an image with text in it and I’d like jaws to read it to me!
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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[JAWS-Users] text as an image

[Kevin]

how do I use the jaws OCR
someone sent me an image with text in it and I’d like jaws to read it to me!
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

[Judy Jones]

>From what I understand, it is.

Judy


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Behalf Of Donna
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

Hi

Does anyone know if the demo version of Jaws is a fully functioning version
of Jaws with the exception that the demo runs only for 40 minute intervals?

Thanks!

Donna

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[JAWS-Users] JFW demo version

[Donna]

Hi

Does anyone know if the demo version of Jaws is a fully functioning version of 
Jaws with the exception that the demo runs only for 40 minute intervals?

Thanks!

Donna

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry

[Justin Williams]

Alt delete with tell you where the active cursor is related to the left
margin, and the top of the page.
 Justin

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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry

You got it, dude.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry

Hi Jerry,

I don't know much about all these settings in Word, but are you wanting to
know how far a paragraph is indented from the left margin?  What I mean is,
let's say your margins are set at 1 inch from the left, right, top, &
bottom.  Do you want to know how much distance it is from the left margin to
the beginning of the paragraph?
Take care.
Mike
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry


Mike: Actually, I am wanting to know how far an indented tab is located
i.e., if there is one tab, two , etc. Thanks, The previous information is
helpful as well.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 1:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry

Hi Jerry,

Try, Alt + Delete.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:35 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry


Morning all. I have a question. I am using a Dell laptop, JAWS 17, and MS
Word 2013. Can anyone tell me how to find the cursor location in a document
that is set up as a textbook i.e., each heading/subheading is indented? I
hope this make sense (so much work, so little coffee). Thanks much
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry

[Jason White]

Insert+F will provide you with the indentation, among other details, of the
current paragraph.

jyandt.mar...@comcast.net  wrote:
> You got it, dude.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Mike B.
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry
> 
> Hi Jerry,
> 
> I don't know much about all these settings in Word, but are you wanting to
> know how far a paragraph is indented from the left margin?  What I mean is,
> let's say your margins are set at 1 inch from the left, right, top, &
> bottom.  Do you want to know how much distance it is from the left margin to
> the beginning of the paragraph?
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
> - Original Message - From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry
> 
> 
> Mike: Actually, I am wanting to know how far an indented tab is located
> i.e., if there is one tab, two , etc. Thanks, The previous information is
> helpful as well.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Mike B.
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 1:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry
> 
> Hi Jerry,
> 
> Try, Alt + Delete.
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
> - Original Message - From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:35 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry
> 
> 
> Morning all. I have a question. I am using a Dell laptop, JAWS 17, and MS
> Word 2013. Can anyone tell me how to find the cursor location in a document
> that is set up as a textbook i.e., each heading/subheading is indented? I
> hope this make sense (so much work, so little coffee). Thanks much
> Jerry
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

[Judy Jones]

Thanks so much for the resources!

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

There is a model for the 14 and one for the 40 Focus display. Both are
expected in the United States by the end of the second Quarter.
Another great source is the FSCast by Jonathan Mosen and Ron Miller on the
El Braille that was recently broadcast.
I do not work for VFO so I can't speak to trade in deals. However, they have
stated on several podcasts that you do not need to purchase Jaws or another
focus display if you already have them. You will only need to purchase the
El Braille itself. As for the display, there is an HDMI port which you would
use if you wish to have a video display connected.
I would love to play with one while it is connected to my 60 inch HDTV,
laughs!
Hope that helps,
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Okay, very interesting.  I checked out the site, thank you.

The salesman I spoke with did not tell me that the display comes as part of
the ElBraille, thus, my questions about the cost, which leads to another
question.

If one already has the Focus 14 blue, can you purchase just the docking
station by itself?

Also, if one has the focus 40, can it be traded in for the ElBraille?

I also was not understanding that the ElBraille was for the Focus 14 only,
and I don't think my sales person did either.  I realize the device is that
new.

Thanks for steering me in the right direction for information.

Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List 

Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry

[jyandt.martin]

You got it, dude.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry

Hi Jerry,

I don't know much about all these settings in Word, but are you wanting to
know how far a paragraph is indented from the left margin?  What I mean is,
let's say your margins are set at 1 inch from the left, right, top, &
bottom.  Do you want to know how much distance it is from the left margin to
the beginning of the paragraph?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry


Mike: Actually, I am wanting to know how far an indented tab is located
i.e., if there is one tab, two , etc. Thanks, The previous information is
helpful as well.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 1:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry

Hi Jerry,

Try, Alt + Delete.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:35 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry


Morning all. I have a question. I am using a Dell laptop, JAWS 17, and MS
Word 2013. Can anyone tell me how to find the cursor location in a document
that is set up as a textbook i.e., each heading/subheading is indented? I
hope this make sense (so much work, so little coffee). Thanks much
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

[Merv Keck]

That is a really good question and I really wish I knew. I just sent a
message asking someone who is associated with the development of the El
Braille. I thought he was on this list. I will ask him to join if he is not.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Thank you very much for your help and information.  I will check out the
site.

Another consideration is if this device will update along with the Microsoft
updates, and the gentleman I spoke with did not have that information
either.

>From what I understand, the Polaris' onboard apps will upgrade with firmware
upgrades, but that if you choose to download that same app from the play
store, it will update when Google does its updates.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also 
> uses Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
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>
>
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For 

Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

[Merv Keck]

There is a model for the 14 and one for the 40 Focus display. Both are
expected in the United States by the end of the second Quarter.
Another great source is the FSCast by Jonathan Mosen and Ron Miller on the
El Braille that was recently broadcast.
I do not work for VFO so I can't speak to trade in deals. However, they have
stated on several podcasts that you do not need to purchase Jaws or another
focus display if you already have them. You will only need to purchase the
El Braille itself. As for the display, there is an HDMI port which you would
use if you wish to have a video display connected.
I would love to play with one while it is connected to my 60 inch HDTV,
laughs!
Hope that helps,
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Okay, very interesting.  I checked out the site, thank you.

The salesman I spoke with did not tell me that the display comes as part of
the ElBraille, thus, my questions about the cost, which leads to another
question.

If one already has the Focus 14 blue, can you purchase just the docking
station by itself?

Also, if one has the focus 40, can it be traded in for the ElBraille?

I also was not understanding that the ElBraille was for the Focus 14 only,
and I don't think my sales person did either.  I realize the device is that
new.

Thanks for steering me in the right direction for information.

Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

[Judy Jones]

Okay, very interesting.  I checked out the site, thank you.

The salesman I spoke with did not tell me that the display comes as part of
the ElBraille, thus, my questions about the cost, which leads to another
question.

If one already has the Focus 14 blue, can you purchase just the docking
station by itself?

Also, if one has the focus 40, can it be traded in for the ElBraille?

I also was not understanding that the ElBraille was for the Focus 14 only,
and I don't think my sales person did either.  I realize the device is that
new.

Thanks for steering me in the right direction for information.

Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also 
> uses Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

[Judy Jones]

Thank you very much for your help and information.  I will check out the
site.

Another consideration is if this device will update along with the Microsoft
updates, and the gentleman I spoke with did not have that information
either.

>From what I understand, the Polaris' onboard apps will upgrade with firmware
upgrades, but that if you choose to download that same app from the play
store, it will update when Google does its updates.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also 
> uses Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also 
> uses Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Issue

[Jason White]

I haven't encountered this issue either (Windows 10, Firefox 52).
 would suggest removing it and re-installing.

John M.  wrote:
> I have not seen that issue after the Firefox update to version 52.0 on three
> computers.
> 
> John
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Tom Behler" 
> To: "'Jaws users list'" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 11:29 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Issue
> 
> 
> > Hello everyone.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > My Dell windows 7 laptop just updated to Firefox version 52.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Now, whenever I open Firefox, I get a user account control message
> > asking me
> > if I want to allow
> > Firefox to make changes to my computer.  I say yes, hoping that the
> > changes
> > will occur, and that dialog won't come up again. . But, it now comes up
> > every time I launch Firefox.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Obviously, this is not a life-or-death situation, but I'm wondering if
> > anyone knows how to get rid of this anoying Windows dialog whenever
> > Firefox
> > 52 is launched.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm using Jaws 18 and Windows 7 here.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Issue

[John M.]

I have not seen that issue after the Firefox update to version 52.0 on three 
computers.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Behler" 

To: "'Jaws users list'" 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 11:29 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Issue



Hello everyone.



My Dell windows 7 laptop just updated to Firefox version 52.



Now, whenever I open Firefox, I get a user account control message asking 
me

if I want to allow
Firefox to make changes to my computer.  I say yes, hoping that the 
changes

will occur, and that dialog won't come up again. . But, it now comes up
every time I launch Firefox.



Obviously, this is not a life-or-death situation, but I'm wondering if
anyone knows how to get rid of this anoying Windows dialog whenever 
Firefox

52 is launched.



I'm using Jaws 18 and Windows 7 here.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

[Shane Hecker]

Companies sometimes have 2 versions of their site. One is for a desktop 
computer, the other is mobile friendly meaning a mobile phone can access 
it with no problems. The desktop site is loaded with things that make 
the site look good on a desktop computer namely graphics. The mobile 
site does not use much in the way of graphics because mobile phones 
aren't as powerful as a desktop computer. They tend to be more text 
based. From what I've seen, the folks at FS tend to use the mobile site 
for programming the research it feature because it is easier to work 
with. So whe the mobile site goes down, so does research it.


A perfect example of what I'm talking about is facebook. Have a look at 
the main site, www.facebook.com. Then compare it to m.facebook.com, 
which is the mobile site. You will find that the mobile site is faster 
and easier to use than the main site.



On 3/11/2017 6:01 AM, Vicki wrote:

So does this mean that when you use the research feature on the 
computer, it should work because it doesn't. I guess I'm a little 
confused as to what you mean by desktop.


Vicki

- Original Message - From: "Shane Hecker" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed


In this case, it's not the research it causing the issue. The mobile 
site which was m.wund.com is down. So when that happens, it redirects 
to www.wunderground.com which is the desktop site. The research it 
feature doesn't know how to interact with the desktop site, which 
causes it to say that it couldn't find any results. I'm not for sure 
on this, but I thought FS had a way to program new items into the 
research it function. Either that or they were going to make a way 
for this to be done. If they haven't done this, it would be a useful 
feature to add.



Shane


On 3/10/2017 4:32 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:

ResearchIt sure is losing a lot of its capabilities.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
small things, it does not exist at all.


On 3/10/2017 3:55 PM, Vicki wrote:
It's not working on the computer here either. Any suggestions for 
other quick searches on the computer? Could it be that the research 
feature for weather is having an issue? I know this has happened 
before.


Vicki

- Original Message - From: "Luis Guerra" 


To: 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed



Try completely accessible, braille.wunderground.com

On 3/10/2017 3:06 PM, Rose wrote:
Wunderground seems the same, although I can't get the table with 
temperature
etc. to read right, did it before but computer was repaired and 
settings
lost.  However Research It is not working which has been the site 
I use the
most.  I do get annoyed when there is some sort of warning and 
the forecast
is lost but it is a great place to look a temperature in the 
morning and

decide to dress accordingly.

Rose Combs


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

Looks like Weather Underground has changed and the mobile site is 
either
down or no longer available. When I go to m.wund.com, it pulls up 
the full
desktop site. Additionally, when I try to do a lookup using the 
weather

research-it feature, it says it can't find any results.


Shane


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

[Rose]

Yes, it isn't Underground that changed it is Research it, the thing I used
daily now is broken.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

ResearchIt sure is losing a lot of its capabilities.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 3/10/2017 3:55 PM, Vicki wrote:
> It's not working on the computer here either. Any suggestions for 
> other quick searches on the computer? Could it be that the research 
> feature for weather is having an issue? I know this has happened before.
>
> Vicki
>
> - Original Message - From: "Luis Guerra" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed
>
>
>> Try completely accessible, braille.wunderground.com
>>
>> On 3/10/2017 3:06 PM, Rose wrote:
>>> Wunderground seems the same, although I can't get the table with 
>>> temperature etc. to read right, did it before but computer was 
>>> repaired and settings lost.  However Research It is not working 
>>> which has been the site I use the most.  I do get annoyed when there 
>>> is some sort of warning and the forecast is lost but it is a great 
>>> place to look a temperature in the morning and decide to dress 
>>> accordingly.
>>>
>>> Rose Combs
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Shane Hecker
>>> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:45 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed
>>>
>>> Looks like Weather Underground has changed and the mobile site is 
>>> either
>>> down or no longer available. When I go to m.wund.com, it pulls up 
>>> the full
>>> desktop site. Additionally, when I try to do a lookup using the weather
>>> research-it feature, it says it can't find any results.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

[Rose]

Except with Jaws 17 and 18 table does not read well in my opinion.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Luis Guerra
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

Try completely accessible, braille.wunderground.com

On 3/10/2017 3:06 PM, Rose wrote:
> Wunderground seems the same, although I can't get the table with 
> temperature etc. to read right, did it before but computer was 
> repaired and settings lost.  However Research It is not working which 
> has been the site I use the most.  I do get annoyed when there is some 
> sort of warning and the forecast is lost but it is a great place to 
> look a temperature in the morning and decide to dress accordingly.
>
> Rose Combs
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:45 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed
>
> Looks like Weather Underground has changed and the mobile site is 
> either down or no longer available. When I go to m.wund.com, it pulls 
> up the full desktop site. Additionally, when I try to do a lookup 
> using the weather research-it feature, it says it can't find any results.
>
>
> Shane
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting rid of paragraph marks in email

[Judy]

Hi, Adrien, it works great. Thank you. Judy & Libby

 

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting rid of paragraph marks in email

Judy, to turn on and off jaws reading you paragraph and space markers, etc,
the toggle key on and off is shift plus control plus 8 key on the numbers
row.

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Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting rid of paragraph marks in email

Hi, all, since I now could open and read all these attachments I've gotten
there is another issue. A couple of these attachments must be word documents
but in trying to read them, it keeps say "paragraph markers" all through
this thing. Is there any way  of getting rid of those? Thanks in advance.
Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting rid of paragraph marks in email

[Judy]

Brian, I'm not using word 2013, I am still back in word 2003...just never
updated it. I will try both suggestions. Judy & Libby

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Lee
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting rid of paragraph marks in email

Hello Adrian,

That keystroke is not for whether or not JAWS speaks the paragraph marks.
The CTRL Shift 8 command was Word's way to show or hide paragraph marks for
anyone whether or not using JAWS.  In Word 2013 the keystroke doesn't work.
Instead, Alt followed by H followed by 8 is the way marks are shown or
hidden in Word 2013.  Whether or not JAWS indicates the marks is controlled
by the New Lines and paragraph indication setting.

Take care.   

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: March 10, 2017 7:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting rid of paragraph marks in email

Judy, to turn on and off jaws reading you paragraph and space markers, etc,
the toggle key on and off is shift plus control plus 8 key on the numbers
row.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting rid of paragraph marks in email

Hi, all, since I now could open and read all these attachments I've gotten
there is another issue. A couple of these attachments must be word documents
but in trying to read them, it keeps say "paragraph markers" all through
this thing. Is there any way  of getting rid of those? Thanks in advance.
Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Firefox Issue

[Tom Behler]

Hello everyone.

 

My Dell windows 7 laptop just updated to Firefox version 52.

 

Now, whenever I open Firefox, I get a user account control message asking me
if I want to allow 
Firefox to make changes to my computer.  I say yes, hoping that the changes
will occur, and that dialog won't come up again. . But, it now comes up
every time I launch Firefox.

 

Obviously, this is not a life-or-death situation, but I'm wondering if
anyone knows how to get rid of this anoying Windows dialog whenever Firefox
52 is launched.

 

I'm using Jaws 18 and Windows 7 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] scripting for keyboards with only a single windows key

[David Ferrin]

That is the plan. My reasoning folks for not using another program such as 
short keys and I do not know much about it never having used the thing, it 
is just that would be one more program in my system tray taking up resources 
for something that does not need to be doing that like an anti virus program 
ETC.


Where as a simple script does not use any resources at all other than when 
it is invoked.


-Original Message- 
From: Gary Ray

Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] scripting for keyboards with only a single 
windowskey


Dave:

Are you going to put something up on the script page with instruction on how 
to use it?


Gary Ray

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] scripting for keyboards with only a single windows 
key


I was aware of programs that do that kind of thing. I have never used such 
an animal but it is good to know that they are out there if the need arises.


They enter blocks of text and lots of other things preprogrammed in to their 
respective memory. Thank you for giving me another title to add to my list 
of tools I keep for future needs.


-Original Message-
From: Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] scripting for keyboards with only a single 
windowskey


Hello David and all:

I don't know if you are familiar with Auto Hot Key, but it is a free program 
that enables you to assing hot keys to just about anything, including being 
able to paste blocks of text that are repetitive just about anywhere.  It is 
accessible with Jaws, works off a text file which you can prepare using a 
text editor, but it takes a bit of a learning curve.  I use it daily since 
quite a while ago, it allows me, for instance, to assign Alt-Windows-O to 
open  Outlook from the Run menu without add-ons, or assign a combination of 
six leeters that do not form a word to a few paragraphs of repetitive text, 
which I can then paste on an email, document or elsewhere by just typing the 
six letters and the space bar.


Just an idea for those that may want to look into it.

Regards,

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez
Fort White, Florida


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] scripting for keyboards with only a single windows key

First of all before anybody makes a comment there is no such thing as a 
married windows key, LOL. So now that the silliness is out of the way here 
is the purpose of this message.


My wireless keyboard has only a left handed windows key, but most of the 
time if I am on another system that has a right handed windows key I will 
use it for most of what I need to do. I can use the left key good enough but 
it crossed my mind this afternoon that with a script it might bebe possible 
to simulate such an animal assigning say control + R which so far as I am 
aware is an unused keystroke. The same with control + E. So I wrote two 
scripts to do the following functions. Open up the run dialog and open up 
windows explorer.


This inspiration came to me from Mr. Mike, because he sent me a script last 
evening that triggered this bit of creativity.


I’ll probably post them on the server this evening and maybe a recording 
demo of the process if there is any interest out among you folks.

David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] Fw: Jaws Update

[David Ferrin]

Our friend at FS is having some trouble so I am pitching in so to speak.

-Original Message- 
From: Eric Damery

Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:09 PM
To: David Ferrin (d...@jaws-users.com)
Subject: FW: Jaws Update

David,
I sent a couple of messages to the list and for some reason, they are not 
posting. Do you know if there is something blocking me on the list side?

Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
www.vfogroup.com

-Original Message-
From: Eric Damery
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 9:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Update

Mike,

Thanks for the posting the info on the other two posts with the direct links 
to the English versions of JAWS 17 and 16. I've also included the download 
page below for previous versions for please to locate the language versions 
they might need.


http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS/PreviousVersions

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F 
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.

Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Update

Hi Pam,

There are 2 updates.  1 for Jaws 16, & 1 for Jaws 17.  They'll be coming 
shortly.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Pam Mahuika
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:18 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Update


Hi I believe there is an update that came out the other day.  Could someone 
very kindly repost the download links as my partner is having trouble 
getting the update.


Many thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

[Vicki]

So does this mean that when you use the research feature on the computer, it 
should work because it doesn't. I guess I'm a little confused as to what you 
mean by desktop.


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Shane Hecker" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed


In this case, it's not the research it causing the issue. The mobile site 
which was m.wund.com is down. So when that happens, it redirects to 
www.wunderground.com which is the desktop site. The research it feature 
doesn't know how to interact with the desktop site, which causes it to say 
that it couldn't find any results. I'm not for sure on this, but I thought 
FS had a way to program new items into the research it function. Either 
that or they were going to make a way for this to be done. If they haven't 
done this, it would be a useful feature to add.



Shane


On 3/10/2017 4:32 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:

ResearchIt sure is losing a lot of its capabilities.


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small things, it does not exist at all.


On 3/10/2017 3:55 PM, Vicki wrote:
It's not working on the computer here either. Any suggestions for other 
quick searches on the computer? Could it be that the research feature 
for weather is having an issue? I know this has happened before.


Vicki

- Original Message - From: "Luis Guerra" 


To: 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed



Try completely accessible, braille.wunderground.com

On 3/10/2017 3:06 PM, Rose wrote:
Wunderground seems the same, although I can't get the table with 
temperature
etc. to read right, did it before but computer was repaired and 
settings
lost.  However Research It is not working which has been the site I 
use the
most.  I do get annoyed when there is some sort of warning and the 
forecast
is lost but it is a great place to look a temperature in the morning 
and

decide to dress accordingly.

Rose Combs


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On

Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

Looks like Weather Underground has changed and the mobile site is 
either
down or no longer available. When I go to m.wund.com, it pulls up the 
full
desktop site. Additionally, when I try to do a lookup using the 
weather

research-it feature, it says it can't find any results.


Shane


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