Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers

2017-05-18 Thread Michele Thredgold 
How difficult is it to change from IE 11 to Erome? What does one have to learn? 
I always feel intimidated by new programs, particularly when they have, for so 
long, not been very accessible. 

Are the keyboard commands diffouent in Chrome, for example? 

I had it set up as my main browser but felt more comfortable with IE 11. 
However, if Chrome is faster, and "%picularly if IE is going to be phased out, 
I'd like to start getting used to it. 

Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Tim Ford  
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date: Sunday, 14 May 2017 7:45 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers

>
>
> Okay, here is one old JAWS user's opinion.
> 
> I  Am now using Chrome as my primary browser.  Things load more reliably,
> fewer lockups, more stable streaming video.  It was a long time coming for
> me to make the switch, but I just found more and more times ending up having
> to use Chrome because IE and Firefox were mis-firing.  Yes, Chrome does
> operate differently and takes a bit of time to get used to, but for purposes
> of reading what is on the web page, Chrome works the same with JAWS
> navigation as is the case for IE or Firefox.  In fact, my transition to
> Chrome started by my having links in emails open in Chrome, since that
> provided me with the web page all ready to read.  From there over time I
> learned the other basics such as saving favorites, and about a month ago
> realized that Chrome had become my general use browser, so I made the final
> switch and Chrome is now the default browser for all purposes.
> 
> Tim Ford
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:25 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers
> 
> I haven't used Chrome much, but I find using Firefox to be a lot like using
> IE. Some commands and menu options are differently named, but it doesn't
> take long to get used to. For example, the command to go to a URL is
> CONTROL-L as opposed to CONTROL-O as is the case with IE.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 7:36 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] browsers
> 
> 
> > Hi, I've always and still do use Internet Explorer and have the latest one
> > 11. I have come across occasionally a couple web sites that don't support 
> > it
> > and want you to use either Firefox or Google chrome. Which of these is
> > easier to use and is more accessible to us? Thanks. Judy & aLibby
> >
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[JAWS-Users] Dealing with e-mail message in Yahoomail on the site

2017-05-18 Thread N K Shackelford 
I am trying to open a message in my Yahoomail page but can find
nothing that's clickable to open it. I also need to forward it to
someone. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Nance

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[JAWS-Users] No Windows Sounds with Jaws

2017-05-18 Thread Dan Kerstetter 
Hello all.

 

I'm not sure when this started, but I'm using JAWS 18 with the latest
Creators Update; and I have no sound for incoming mail or notifications.
I've looked through the JAWS settings and can find no place to change this.
I'm just curious as to why this occurs with Jaws and not NVDA.

 

I would appreciate any input.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

2017-05-18 Thread Andrew James Bontrager 
I don't know of any special Jaws keystroke to check your hard disk information. 
All I can recommend is that you right click your hard disk in Computer and 
choose properties.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

2017-05-18 Thread Steve 

No, you turn it off by pressing the numpad plus key twice.

- Original Message - 
From: "wayne smith" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.


Just to be clear-is this a toggle command to turn the touch cursor on and 
off?


Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

15 and up, just press shift with the numpad-Plus key.

- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Williams" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.



Is this JAWS 18?
Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi Tom,
The touch cursor memics using your finger on a touch screen, only you use
the keyboard on your computer to accomplish the same thing. When you turn
on the touch cursor, the right arrow is like swiping your finger to the
right on a touch screen. You do not need a touch screen on your computer
for this to work. Using the touch cursor and your arrow keys, allows you
to access many controls that you cannot ever get to with the PC cursor or
the JAWS cursor. You can press your arrow keys, and access the buttons on
the toolbars of MS word, for example. The touch cursor does not show up 
in

JAWS until version 15.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

what's the touch cursor?

-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor
and going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the
num pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular
PC cursor.
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe
twice. I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer

wrote:

Hi,

Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I
donn’t use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.



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From: Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi all,


I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?


Thanks for any answers.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

2017-05-18 Thread wayne smith 
Just to be clear-is this a toggle command to turn the touch cursor on and off?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

15 and up, just press shift with the numpad-Plus key.

- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Williams" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.


> Is this JAWS 18?
> Justin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of David Moore
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> Hi Tom,
> The touch cursor memics using your finger on a touch screen, only you use 
> the keyboard on your computer to accomplish the same thing. When you turn 
> on the touch cursor, the right arrow is like swiping your finger to the 
> right on a touch screen. You do not need a touch screen on your computer 
> for this to work. Using the touch cursor and your arrow keys, allows you 
> to access many controls that you cannot ever get to with the PC cursor or 
> the JAWS cursor. You can press your arrow keys, and access the buttons on 
> the toolbars of MS word, for example. The touch cursor does not show up in 
> JAWS until version 15.
> Have a great one.
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Tom
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> what's the touch cursor?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Moore
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> Hi,
> For a laptop,
> To turn on the touch cursor, press:
> Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
> Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: John R. Vaughn
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor 
> and going back to regular cursor.
> the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the 
> num pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular 
> PC cursor.
> John
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> Hello,
> THe laptop keystroke is:
> capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
> To disable it:
> either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe 
> twice. I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I
>> donn’t use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Sadam Ahmed
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any answers.
>>
>>
>> Sadam Ahmed
>>
>> Mobile:
>>
>> + 61 435 892 944
>>
>> FaceTime, iMessage & email
>>
>> sa...@sadamahmed.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

2017-05-18 Thread Steve 

15 and up, just press shift with the numpad-Plus key.

- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Williams" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.



Is this JAWS 18?
Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi Tom,
The touch cursor memics using your finger on a touch screen, only you use 
the keyboard on your computer to accomplish the same thing. When you turn 
on the touch cursor, the right arrow is like swiping your finger to the 
right on a touch screen. You do not need a touch screen on your computer 
for this to work. Using the touch cursor and your arrow keys, allows you 
to access many controls that you cannot ever get to with the PC cursor or 
the JAWS cursor. You can press your arrow keys, and access the buttons on 
the toolbars of MS word, for example. The touch cursor does not show up in 
JAWS until version 15.

Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

what's the touch cursor?

-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor 
and going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the 
num pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular 
PC cursor.

John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Wocher

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe 
twice. I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.


Regards,
Greg Wocher

On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer

wrote:

Hi,

Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I
donn’t use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi all,


I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?


Thanks for any answers.


Sadam Ahmed

Mobile:

+ 61 435 892 944

FaceTime, iMessage & email

sa...@sadamahmed.com




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[JAWS-Users] Problem with Firefox constantly refreshing and Jaws

2017-05-18 Thread Cristóbal 
Hello list,

So I’ve been encountering this problem today. In Firefox 53.0 and the latest
JFW 18, the page is constantly refreshing making me lose my place. This is
getting rather annoying fast. 

Be it in a Google search results page or other pages. Side note, I’m trying
to look up issues with my Outlook Exchange server not connecting, but it’s
becoming nearly impossible since I’m always getting placed at the top of the
page.

I have the refresh page settings in Jaws set to off and off the top of my
head, don’t’ recall this issue present even yesterday. Firefox is my default
browser, so haven’t yet tried another browser.

Any ideas how to stop this disruptive behavior?

Thanks,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

2017-05-18 Thread Joseph Lee 
Hi,
Glad it is resolved somehow.
As for Windows 10 version: yes, you have an older version, with the latest
release being version 1703.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi Joseph,

I have managed to fix the problem, but the cause is a mystery. I should have
tried this before, but my brain must have been on vacation. I removed my
settings from JAWS 18--I shouldn't have allowed the migration from 17 to
begin with--and reset things the way I like it. JAWS 18 is working normally.
For kicks I went into JAWS 17 and tried to make sure the settings were
exactly like the one I just did for JAWS 18 and still JAWS 17 had the
problem. Later, I may play with it a little more, but for now I have to
quit. The most likely culprit is probably the general settings in the
keyboard manager, but with my little test, I can't prove it.

By the Way my Windows info is:

Version 1511 (OS build 10586.916)

Thanks for your help! I really appreciate you giving this weir mess a try!

Debby
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Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
I suggest calling VFO first, then let's think about getting your Windows 10
updated. But to make sure you're running the version you think you've got,
can you try the following for me:
1. Open Start menu.
2. Type "winver" (without quotes) and press ENTER.
3. Note down the build number you got and reply to me with this information.
In the meantime, I'll forward this query to a list that deals with Windows
10.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi Joseph,

That was a great idea for troubleshooting! Narrator worked correctly. When I
would come to a menu with a submenu it would say "menu collapsed," and I
could open, review the options and close it normally. So it does seem to be
a JAWS issue. I looked through the setting center hoping to find something
that might help and no luck! Do you have any other ideas? I see two choices
at this point, I call VFO for JAWS help, or I try to solve my problem I have
with updating windows, and get Windows 10 updated.

Thanks for the help!

Debby
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Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
What happens if you use Narrator and try to access menus with submenus? If
you can navigate back to a parent menu, chances are that it might be
something to do with JAWS.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Yes, it is all menus with submenus. Of course, ribbons seem to work fine. 

I called it Windows 10 2015 because I couldn't remember what the first
version of windows 10 was called (smile) I have tried to update, but that is
another story I am working on. But if updating would solve this problem, I
will work harder on the story. It is really inconvenient not to be able to
get out of submenus that you don't want to be within in the first place.

Thanks!

Debby

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
Is this for all menus with submenus or just several? And you say you're
running a 2015 release of Windows 10?
Cheers,
Joseph

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Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hello,

 

I am running Windows 10, the 2015 version, on a 64-bit Dell computer with
JAWS 17 and 18. The problem only happens in menus with submenus. When I am
arrowing through a menu that has submenus, I get stuck in the submenu. I
have a tough time getting out of the submenu and getting back to the main
menu. For example, If I go to the JAWS 18 icon on my desktop and press
enter, because the tandem item has a submenu it automatically opens and I
see "allow access to my

Re: [JAWS-Users] welcome to new members

2017-05-18 Thread Blackwell, Clifford 
With the impending demise of Window Eyes and VFO's offers to switch users over 
to JAWS, I suspect you'll see an even bigger increase over the next months.

This is the premier source for discussion and help concerning all matters JAWS.
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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 5:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] welcome to new members

I have noticed we got at least 8 new subscribers in the past couple of days. 
This is a large influx in such a short period of time on average. I haven’t 
checked recently, but this might put us over 670 members. I will double check 
that today some time I imagine. 

Never the less, welcome aboard.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible anti-virus programs

2017-05-18 Thread Maria Campbell 
Someone named Sharon I think it was, said Vipre was not accessible, so 
which is it?



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VIPREinternet security. Very easy to use and accessible. -Original 
Message- From: Dennis Long Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:21 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible 
anti-virus programs

What are accessible Anti-virus programs that work with Jaws?  I'm running
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

2017-05-18 Thread Maria Campbell 

Sorry I just shorten windows defender to wf.  Should probably be wd?


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On 5/18/2017 6:38 AM, Fred C. Adams wrote:

Maria, can you tell me what WF stands for?  I have racked my brain but I
can't remember but I am sure it is something very simple.  I really
appreciate your help.

Thanks much,

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Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

  When you open wf, tab to home, down arrow to virus and threat
protection, enter, tab to advanced, enter, and you will be able to choose
the type of scan you want.


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On 5/17/2017 3:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
This is because Windows Defender is now a universal app and starts up
automatically (unles my recollection on that is wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph

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On Behalf Of Fred C. Adams
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:34 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

Since I updated to Win 10 Creator upgrade I have not been able to
start windows defender.  I would appreciate it if someone could tell
me how this is now done.  I have tried everything I can think of but

nothing works.

Will appreciate any help.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Outlook 2010

2017-05-18 Thread LeDon 
I don't know if I understand your question. If you are asking how to close
an open email then all you have to do is press alt F4 or go to the next
email in the list of emails you have received. That will close the open one.



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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Outlook 2010

Does anyone know where to find the option for close message on send or reply
in Microsoft Outlook 2010 please?

Many thanks in anticipation,






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Forms Mode Beep In JAWS18

2017-05-18 Thread Mike B. 
Hi Steven,

Try the following:
1. Press, Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard, 
to open the Settings Center, then press, Control, Shift, + D, to open the 
Settings Center default all applications.
2. Arrow down to, Forms Modeclosed, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Forms Mode Sounds closed, right arrow to open.
4. Arrow down to, Enable Sound Notifications, & press the spacebar to 
uncheck this.
5. Tab to, Okay, press enter to save & close.
Take care.
Mike
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To: 'JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM'
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Forms Mode Beep In JAWS18


Hi friends,

I Have set my forms mode to manual but I still get the forms mode sounds 
which I don't really want.
This is running Microsoft Windows 7 32 bit and using a web based 
application.
Any ideas how I can turn off the sound please?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible anti-virus programs

2017-05-18 Thread Gerald Levy 


Microsoft Security Essentials is probably the most JAWS-accessible 
anti-virus program for Windows 7 users.  Other anti-virus programs like 
Avast and AVG may offer superior protection, but they have become so 
inaccessible to the point that they are no longer worth considering.  For 
most blind computer users, MSE should provide adequate protection as long as 
they practice safe web surfing habits.


Gerald



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What are accessible Anti-virus programs that work with Jaws?  I'm running
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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

2017-05-18 Thread Debby 
Hi Joseph,

I have managed to fix the problem, but the cause is a mystery. I should have
tried this before, but my brain must have been on vacation. I removed my
settings from JAWS 18--I shouldn't have allowed the migration from 17 to
begin with--and reset things the way I like it. JAWS 18 is working normally.
For kicks I went into JAWS 17 and tried to make sure the settings were
exactly like the one I just did for JAWS 18 and still JAWS 17 had the
problem. Later, I may play with it a little more, but for now I have to
quit. The most likely culprit is probably the general settings in the
keyboard manager, but with my little test, I can't prove it.

By the Way my Windows info is:

Version 1511 (OS build 10586.916)

Thanks for your help! I really appreciate you giving this weir mess a try!

Debby
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Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
I suggest calling VFO first, then let's think about getting your Windows 10
updated. But to make sure you're running the version you think you've got,
can you try the following for me:
1. Open Start menu.
2. Type "winver" (without quotes) and press ENTER.
3. Note down the build number you got and reply to me with this information.
In the meantime, I'll forward this query to a list that deals with Windows
10.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi Joseph,

That was a great idea for troubleshooting! Narrator worked correctly. When I
would come to a menu with a submenu it would say "menu collapsed," and I
could open, review the options and close it normally. So it does seem to be
a JAWS issue. I looked through the setting center hoping to find something
that might help and no luck! Do you have any other ideas? I see two choices
at this point, I call VFO for JAWS help, or I try to solve my problem I have
with updating windows, and get Windows 10 updated.

Thanks for the help!

Debby
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Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
What happens if you use Narrator and try to access menus with submenus? If
you can navigate back to a parent menu, chances are that it might be
something to do with JAWS.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Yes, it is all menus with submenus. Of course, ribbons seem to work fine. 

I called it Windows 10 2015 because I couldn't remember what the first
version of windows 10 was called (smile) I have tried to update, but that is
another story I am working on. But if updating would solve this problem, I
will work harder on the story. It is really inconvenient not to be able to
get out of submenus that you don't want to be within in the first place.

Thanks!

Debby

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Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
Is this for all menus with submenus or just several? And you say you're
running a 2015 release of Windows 10?
Cheers,
Joseph

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Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hello,

 

I am running Windows 10, the 2015 version, on a 64-bit Dell computer with
JAWS 17 and 18. The problem only happens in menus with submenus. When I am
arrowing through a menu that has submenus, I get stuck in the submenu. I
have a tough time getting out of the submenu and getting back to the main
menu. For example, If I go to the JAWS 18 icon on my desktop and press
enter, because the tandem item has a submenu it automatically opens and I
see "allow access to my computer ." and if I arrow down I see "get access to
a computer." If I arrow down again, I go back to "allow access to my
computer ." I have tried both left arrow and backspace to get out of
submenus, but they don't work. Escape just takes me out of the menu system
altogether. (I feel like that 1969 song "You got me going in circles" by
Friends of Distinction. Yikes! My age is showing.)

 

I have looked

Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible anti-virus programs

2017-05-18 Thread Holger Fiallo 


VIPREinternet security. Very easy to use and accessible. 
-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:21 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible anti-virus programs 


What are accessible Anti-virus programs that work with Jaws?  I'm running
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[JAWS-Users] accessible anti-virus programs

2017-05-18 Thread Dennis Long 
What are accessible Anti-virus programs that work with Jaws?  I'm running
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[JAWS-Users] welcome to new members

2017-05-18 Thread David Ferrin 
I have noticed we got at least 8 new subscribers in the past couple of days. 
This is a large influx in such a short period of time on average. I haven’t 
checked recently, but this might put us over 670 members. I will double check 
that today some time I imagine. 

Never the less, welcome aboard.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

2017-05-18 Thread Fred C. Adams 
Maria, can you tell me what WF stands for?  I have racked my brain but I
can't remember but I am sure it is something very simple.  I really
appreciate your help.

Thanks much,

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

 When you open wf, tab to home, down arrow to virus and threat
protection, enter, tab to advanced, enter, and you will be able to choose
the type of scan you want.


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On 5/17/2017 3:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> This is because Windows Defender is now a universal app and starts up 
> automatically (unles my recollection on that is wrong).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Fred C. Adams
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:34 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender
>
> Since I updated to Win 10 Creator upgrade I have not been able to 
> start windows defender.  I would appreciate it if someone could tell 
> me how this is now done.  I have tried everything I can think of but
nothing works.
> Will appreciate any help.
>
> FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
> THE HOUR IS LATE AND
> THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

2017-05-18 Thread David Ferrin 
Focus on your this PC or computer icon as I do not recall which version of 
windows you are running and hit alt + the enter key for properties.


You will get the same results.

-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

David, I tried to follow your directions and found out that my HP laptop
with a "full keyboard" does not seem to have a pause or screenshot key.  I
never noticed it before.  Is there another way to get that info?

Wayne

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Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

Hi Tom,
The command:
Windows key+pause will bring up all of that information!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom Clary
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

what are the jaws keystrokes to check what size hard drive is on my laptop?
jaws 17, vista

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[JAWS-Users] Microsoft Outlook 2010

2017-05-18 Thread HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) 
Does anyone know where to find the option for close message on send or reply in 
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[JAWS-Users] Forms Mode Beep In JAWS18

2017-05-18 Thread HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) 
Hi friends,

I Have set my forms mode to manual but I still get the forms mode sounds which 
I don't really want.
This is running Microsoft Windows 7 32 bit and using a web based application.
Any ideas how I can turn off the sound please?

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