Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

2017-10-17 Thread David Ferrin
Most certainly a dongle is the way to go if you can handle it. On a lap top 
I suggest you avoid using those things as they might break off, but on a 
tower it is the only way to fly.


-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 5:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

Weird.

I think next time I'm going to get one of those dongles myself. It seems 
like they do make things easier for us.




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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien

Sent: October 16, 2017 1:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

Hi

A couple of years ago, I got a CGate 3 TB drive for my Windows 7 machine. 
It came with software from CGate to allow it to use all 3 TB in a single 
partition.  It worked fine until It recently failed But I had one problem 
when I had that drive.  Every week or two, my JAWS locking code would 
change, requiring me to reauthorize JAWS, even though I made no hardware 
changes.  I never had that problem before or after I had that drive.  I 
circumvented the problem by purchasing a JAWS dongle to authorize JAWS.



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Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 08:26
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

Interesting, my research indicates that anything over 2 terabytes is not 
addressed using NTFS, guess you can't believe everything you read on the 
internet. Thank you, so I gather you are addressing every bit of your 4 
terabytes.


-Original Message-
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

David,

I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea 
what GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger 
and I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it 
has to be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own 
case that it is most likely already formatted.


I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is 
all.

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

2017-10-16 Thread Randy Barnett
With all the experimenting I do it has saved me a lot of hassle asking 
for new keys. When they started to complain I explained that it was a 
test machine and this would be the norm FS sent me one for free just so 
they wouldn't have to keep resetting my key count! LOL

On 10/16/2017 2:33 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Weird.

I think next time I'm going to get one of those dongles myself. It seems like 
they do make things easier for us.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: October 16, 2017 1:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

Hi

A couple of years ago, I got a CGate 3 TB drive for my Windows 7 machine.  It 
came with software from CGate to allow it to use all 3 TB in a single 
partition.  It worked fine until It recently failed But I had one problem when 
I had that drive.  Every week or two, my JAWS locking code would change, 
requiring me to reauthorize JAWS, even though I made no hardware changes.  I 
never had that problem before or after I had that drive.  I circumvented the 
problem by purchasing a JAWS dongle to authorize JAWS.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 08:26
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

Interesting, my research indicates that anything over 2 terabytes is not 
addressed using NTFS, guess you can't believe everything you read on the 
internet. Thank you, so I gather you are addressing every bit of your 4 
terabytes.

-Original Message-
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

David,

I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea what 
GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger and 
I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it has to 
be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own case that 
it is most likely already formatted.

I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is 
all.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

2017-10-16 Thread JM Casey
Weird.

I think next time I'm going to get one of those dongles myself. It seems like 
they do make things easier for us.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: October 16, 2017 1:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

Hi

A couple of years ago, I got a CGate 3 TB drive for my Windows 7 machine.  It 
came with software from CGate to allow it to use all 3 TB in a single 
partition.  It worked fine until It recently failed But I had one problem when 
I had that drive.  Every week or two, my JAWS locking code would change, 
requiring me to reauthorize JAWS, even though I made no hardware changes.  I 
never had that problem before or after I had that drive.  I circumvented the 
problem by purchasing a JAWS dongle to authorize JAWS.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 08:26
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

Interesting, my research indicates that anything over 2 terabytes is not 
addressed using NTFS, guess you can't believe everything you read on the 
internet. Thank you, so I gather you are addressing every bit of your 4 
terabytes.

-Original Message-
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

David,

I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea what 
GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger and 
I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it has to 
be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own case that 
it is most likely already formatted.

I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is 
all.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

2017-10-16 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

A couple of years ago, I got a CGate 3 TB drive for my Windows 7 machine.  It 
came with software from CGate to allow it to use all 3 TB in a single 
partition.  It worked fine until It recently failed But I had one problem when 
I had that drive.  Every week or two, my JAWS locking code would change, 
requiring me to reauthorize JAWS, even though I made no hardware changes.  I 
never had that problem before or after I had that drive.  I circumvented the 
problem by purchasing a JAWS dongle to authorize JAWS.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 08:26
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

Interesting, my research indicates that anything over 2 terabytes is not 
addressed using NTFS, guess you can't believe everything you read on the 
internet. Thank you, so I gather you are addressing every bit of your 4 
terabytes.

-Original Message-
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

David,

I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea what 
GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger
and I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it
has to be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own
case that it is most likely already formatted.

I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is
all.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

2017-10-16 Thread JM Casey
Wow...that seems odd. I don't mean to be contradictory, but this sort of thing 
seems hard to argue with:
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askcore/2010/02/18/understanding-the-2-tb-limit-in-windows-storage/


Are you sure you are able to access all of those drives?
I have two 2 TB external drives myself. I know Windows 10 for instance can 
handle larger drives if you format them in the new post-ntfs filesystem. I had 
these same 2TB drives on my XP machine, which I owned until this spring, but 
never thought to try bigger because of the reasons above.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: October 16, 2017 9:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

Yes, now I will insert a caveat that these are running on an XP operating 
system at 32 bits. I hear that access times are affected by this combination, 
but I do have full access to the 4 Tb. And these are internal drives connected 
using SATA.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 05:26
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


Interesting, my research indicates that anything over 2 terabytes is not
addressed using NTFS, guess you can't believe everything you read on the
internet. Thank you, so I gather you are addressing every bit of your 4
terabytes.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

David,

I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea
what GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger
and I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it
has to be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own
case that it is most likely already formatted.

I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is
all.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

2017-10-16 Thread David Ferrin
SATA drives do boast a hot connection. I have a 500 and a one terabyte in 
this system and they do transfer data quickly for sure.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

Yes, now I will insert a caveat that these are running on an XP operating
system at 32 bits. I hear that access times are affected by this
combination, but I do have full access to the 4 Tb. And these are internal
drives connected using SATA.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 05:26
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


Interesting, my research indicates that anything over 2 terabytes is not
addressed using NTFS, guess you can't believe everything you read on the
internet. Thank you, so I gather you are addressing every bit of your 4
terabytes.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

David,

I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea
what GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger
and I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it
has to be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own
case that it is most likely already formatted.

I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is
all.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

2017-10-16 Thread Dave...Oregonian
Yes, now I will insert a caveat that these are running on an XP operating 
system at 32 bits. I hear that access times are affected by this 
combination, but I do have full access to the 4 Tb. And these are internal 
drives connected using SATA.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 05:26
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


Interesting, my research indicates that anything over 2 terabytes is not
addressed using NTFS, guess you can't believe everything you read on the
internet. Thank you, so I gather you are addressing every bit of your 4
terabytes.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

David,

I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea
what GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger
and I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it
has to be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own
case that it is most likely already formatted.

I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is
all.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

2017-10-16 Thread David Ferrin
Interesting, my research indicates that anything over 2 terabytes is not 
addressed using NTFS, guess you can't believe everything you read on the 
internet. Thank you, so I gather you are addressing every bit of your 4 
terabytes.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

David,

I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea
what GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger
and I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it
has to be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own
case that it is most likely already formatted.

I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is
all.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

2017-10-16 Thread Dave...Oregonian
David,

I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea 
what GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives


I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger 
and I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it 
has to be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own 
case that it is most likely already formatted.

I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is 
all.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives

2017-10-16 Thread David Ferrin
I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger and 
I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it has to 
be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own case that 
it is most likely already formatted. 

I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is 
all. 
David Ferrin
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