Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
just reboot - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I do not know this for sure but what i remembered reading is that jawskey+f4 will just exit jaws regulary as if you did alt+f4 on the jaws application widnow, asking if you want to really close out jaws. what I called the emergency exit command - and learned was jawskey+windowsKey+f4 closes down all processes connected to jaws without asking confirmation. I find that especially if running jaws as a service - using start jaws when windows starts - I am unable to close down jaws from the task manager when it crashes. This sometimes hapepns that I lose speech and the jaws widnow might even disappear but jaws is still in the list of running tasks and cannot be shut down. I am hoping that this emergency exit command can be used in this case. I will try this the next time i have such a crash - if I can get my+ fingers worked into the right knot to do the winkey+jawskey+f4 Thanks to everyone for replying and refreshing my memory btw! I really appreciate this. Cheers, Doris At 06:18 PM 3/31/2011, you wrote: So, what is the difference between insert-windoes F4 and insert F4? - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I never had to use it lol but I was sitting there thinking and thought it was CTRL windows, insert F4 and thought to myself how in the hell can I strech my fingers that far! hahah. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
If your computer lost voice seem to freeze , insert f4 will do nothing. Window insert will shut down Jaws and you can use a short cut key to restart Jaws. You hope. - Original Message - From: Sherri flmom2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? So what's the difference in the two? - Original Message - From: RJ rjf...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? For a regular shut down, it is. - Original Message - From: Sherri flmom2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I thought it was just insert F4. That seems to unload jaws from my computer. I running Jaws 10. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I never had to use it lol but I was sitting there thinking and thought it was CTRL windows, insert F4 and thought to myself how in the hell can I strech my fingers that far! hahah. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
That is what I have been doing but am hoping to avoid this by being able to kill the jaws process. A reboot puts ever so much strain on the hardware and a system should be stable enough to be up for days at a time. Cheers, Doris At 09:41 AM 4/1/2011, you wrote: just reboot - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I do not know this for sure but what i remembered reading is that jawskey+f4 will just exit jaws regulary as if you did alt+f4 on the jaws application widnow, asking if you want to really close out jaws. what I called the emergency exit command - and learned was jawskey+windowsKey+f4 closes down all processes connected to jaws without asking confirmation. I find that especially if running jaws as a service - using start jaws when windows starts - I am unable to close down jaws from the task manager when it crashes. This sometimes hapepns that I lose speech and the jaws widnow might even disappear but jaws is still in the list of running tasks and cannot be shut down. I am hoping that this emergency exit command can be used in this case. I will try this the next time i have such a crash - if I can get my+ fingers worked into the right knot to do the winkey+jawskey+f4 Thanks to everyone for replying and refreshing my memory btw! I really appreciate this. Cheers, Doris At 06:18 PM 3/31/2011, you wrote: So, what is the difference between insert-windoes F4 and insert F4? - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I never had to use it lol but I was sitting there thinking and thought it was CTRL windows, insert F4 and thought to myself how in the hell can I strech my fingers that far! hahah. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
Actually, the insert-space followed by the S is a mute speech command. The standard shutdown for Jaws is insert-f4 as Sherry noted. In cases where Jaws becomes unresponsive, as it seems to more and more these days with the bloated program code, the windows key insert-f4 command performs a memory dump and writes a log file that can be sent to Freedom Scientific for troubleshooting if you so choose and they request. This is necessary when Jaws seems to hang and you need to dump it in order to restart it. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: RJ rjf...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? No! it is the regular way to unload Jaws. For at times, one want to shut Jaws the hell up. But now, there is the insert space s command - Original Message - From: Sherri flmom2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I just tried it and it works. Jaws just disappears. So what does insert F4 do? When I press it, it asks me if I want to unload Jaws. Is that a semi-emergency unload jaws command? Sherri - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
After Jaws 8 I think, it is windows-Jaws-f4 - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
Insert+Windows key+F4 Bitte -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
Ault control J is mine -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
I never had to use it lol but I was sitting there thinking and thought it was CTRL windows, insert F4 and thought to myself how in the hell can I strech my fingers that far! hahah. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
I thought it was just insert F4. That seems to unload jaws from my computer. I running Jaws 10. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I never had to use it lol but I was sitting there thinking and thought it was CTRL windows, insert F4 and thought to myself how in the hell can I strech my fingers that far! hahah. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
I just tried it and it works. Jaws just disappears. So what does insert F4 do? When I press it, it asks me if I want to unload Jaws. Is that a semi-emergency unload jaws command? Sherri - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
For a regular shut down, it is. - Original Message - From: Sherri flmom2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I thought it was just insert F4. That seems to unload jaws from my computer. I running Jaws 10. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I never had to use it lol but I was sitting there thinking and thought it was CTRL windows, insert F4 and thought to myself how in the hell can I strech my fingers that far! hahah. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
No! it is the regular way to unload Jaws. For at times, one want to shut Jaws the hell up. But now, there is the insert space s command - Original Message - From: Sherri flmom2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I just tried it and it works. Jaws just disappears. So what does insert F4 do? When I press it, it asks me if I want to unload Jaws. Is that a semi-emergency unload jaws command? Sherri - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
So, what is the difference between insert-windoes F4 and insert F4? - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I never had to use it lol but I was sitting there thinking and thought it was CTRL windows, insert F4 and thought to myself how in the hell can I strech my fingers that far! hahah. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
very strange, this command only works with the left windows key and not the right one. if i press insert+right-windows-key+f4 nothing happens, but if i use insert+left-windows-key+f4 then jaws closes without any notification. I just tried it and it works. Jaws just disappears. So what does insert F4 do? When I press it, it asks me if I want to unload Jaws. Is that a semi-emergency unload jaws command? Sherri - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
Mine worked with the right Windows key. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? very strange, this command only works with the left windows key and not the right one. if i press insert+right-windows-key+f4 nothing happens, but if i use insert+left-windows-key+f4 then jaws closes without any notification. I just tried it and it works. Jaws just disappears. So what does insert F4 do? When I press it, it asks me if I want to unload Jaws. Is that a semi-emergency unload jaws command? Sherri - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
So what's the difference in the two? - Original Message - From: RJ rjf...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? For a regular shut down, it is. - Original Message - From: Sherri flmom2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I thought it was just insert F4. That seems to unload jaws from my computer. I running Jaws 10. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I never had to use it lol but I was sitting there thinking and thought it was CTRL windows, insert F4 and thought to myself how in the hell can I strech my fingers that far! hahah. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
I do not know this for sure but what i remembered reading is that jawskey+f4 will just exit jaws regulary as if you did alt+f4 on the jaws application widnow, asking if you want to really close out jaws. what I called the emergency exit command - and learned was jawskey+windowsKey+f4 closes down all processes connected to jaws without asking confirmation. I find that especially if running jaws as a service - using start jaws when windows starts - I am unable to close down jaws from the task manager when it crashes. This sometimes hapepns that I lose speech and the jaws widnow might even disappear but jaws is still in the list of running tasks and cannot be shut down. I am hoping that this emergency exit command can be used in this case. I will try this the next time i have such a crash - if I can get my+ fingers worked into the right knot to do the winkey+jawskey+f4 Thanks to everyone for replying and refreshing my memory btw! I really appreciate this. Cheers, Doris At 06:18 PM 3/31/2011, you wrote: So, what is the difference between insert-windoes F4 and insert F4? - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I never had to use it lol but I was sitting there thinking and thought it was CTRL windows, insert F4 and thought to myself how in the hell can I strech my fingers that far! hahah. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command?
Hi The normal JAWS shutdown command of JAWSKey+F4 gives you a confirmation message before shutting down JAWS and works fine if JAWS is working properly. The emergency shutdown command of JAWSKey+Windows+F4 is for those cases when JAWS is not working properly and won't respond to the normal JAWS shutdown command. I find it useful when I receive the error report message that JAWS has crashed but didn't really end, or when I am working on a script and put it into an infinite loop. You can stop JAWS from the task manager by selecting End Task, but how do you find JAWS when it is not speaking without sighted assistance? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? So what's the difference in the two? - Original Message - From: RJ rjf...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? For a regular shut down, it is. - Original Message - From: Sherri flmom2...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I thought it was just insert F4. That seems to unload jaws from my computer. I running Jaws 10. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? I never had to use it lol but I was sitting there thinking and thought it was CTRL windows, insert F4 and thought to myself how in the hell can I strech my fingers that far! hahah. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? Try it, you might like it. Just remember to have a hot key to turn Jaws back on. - Original Message - From: kimsan kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? insert windows F4? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Emergency Exit command? What is the keyboard command to dump all processes connected to jaws when it is locked up? (I do not meanthe JawsKey+j command to unload jaws regularly.) I know the command exists but did not find it in the jaws help system. Thanks much. Doris For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
