RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of marc > fleury > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Bill Burke > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:52 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > > > > > I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some > > other popular Java based web scripting. > > JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we reinvent the scripting > wheel. Let people port to JBoss with existing pages. All I hear from > Julien is lame-ass whining on the compiler and such... :) I will > personally work on him in Paris :) > And considering the marketing spin is PostNuke on J2EE. I think we are the first. Bill --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Bill Burke > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > > I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some > other popular Java based web scripting. JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we reinvent the scripting wheel. Let people port to JBoss with existing pages. All I hear from Julien is lame-ass whining on the compiler and such... :) I will personally work on him in Paris :) marcf --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
Yeah. JSP would be good cause it's a common skill set, has a lot of available tools and extensions (JSTL, etc...) and is a proven tech. > From: "Bill Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:52:08 -0500 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some other popular > Java based web scripting. > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >> julien viet >> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 3:57 PM >> To: marc fleury >> Subject: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming >> >> >> yes that's a good idea and I was thinking about it. Dain could >> you send me details and contact infos ? >> >> A generic compiling service in jboss could be very usefull. >> That + AOP could make wonders. >> >> julien >> >> mf> julien, >> >> mf> why don't you try to bring some of these guys in to do the >> compiler for >> mf> NUKES? JSP like writing for advanced programmatic modules? >> >> mf> marcf >> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM >>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming >>>> >>>> >>>> I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were >>>> interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and >>>> got busy on >>>> some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you the >>>> contact info. >>>> >>>> -dain >>>> >>>> On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Marcel, >>>>> >>>>> Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>> MA> julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>>>>>> JD> Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was >>>>>>> more like >>>>>>> JD> PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development >>>>>>> language >>>>>>> JD> with its rich extensions and apis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished >>>>>>> having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with >>>>>>> a java compiler written in java and taking class def from >>>>>>> a classloader. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would >>>> be great for >>>>>>> nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified >>>>>>> to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. >>>>> >>>>> MA> I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting >>>> Cocoon to work >>>>> MA> without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively >>>>> MA> easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are >>>>> resources >>>>> MA> to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at: >>>>> >>>>> cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get >>>>> code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - >>>>> deploy it >>>>> >>>>> pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can >>>>> have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that >>>> would help. >>>>> >>>>> MA> http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/ >>>>> >>>>> MA> I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and >>>>> extension >>>>> MA> classes needed to use it at: >>>>> http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip >>>>> >>>>> MA> I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines >>>> to keep it >>>>> MA> simple and self hosting. >>>>> >>>>> MA> Hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> MA> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> MA> Marcel Ammerlaan &g
RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some other popular Java based web scripting. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > julien viet > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 3:57 PM > To: marc fleury > Subject: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > > yes that's a good idea and I was thinking about it. Dain could > you send me details and contact infos ? > > A generic compiling service in jboss could be very usefull. > That + AOP could make wonders. > > julien > > mf> julien, > > mf> why don't you try to bring some of these guys in to do the > compiler for > mf> NUKES? JSP like writing for advanced programmatic modules? > > mf> marcf > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom > >> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > >> > >> > >> I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were > >> interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and > >> got busy on > >> some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you the > >> contact info. > >> > >> -dain > >> > >> On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote: > >> > >> > Hello Marcel, > >> > > >> > Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote: > >> > > >> > MA> julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> >>> JD> Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was > >> >>> more like > >> >>> JD> PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development > >> >>> language > >> >>> JD> with its rich extensions and apis. > >> >>> > >> >>> we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished > >> >>> having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with > >> >>> a java compiler written in java and taking class def from > >> >>> a classloader. > >> >>> > >> >>> That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would > >> be great for > >> >>> nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified > >> >>> to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. > >> > > >> > MA> I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting > >> Cocoon to work > >> > MA> without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively > >> > MA> easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are > >> > resources > >> > MA> to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at: > >> > > >> > cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get > >> > code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - > >> > deploy it > >> > > >> > pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can > >> > have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that > >> would help. > >> > > >> > MA> http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/ > >> > > >> > MA> I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and > >> > extension > >> > MA> classes needed to use it at: > >> > http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip > >> > > >> > MA> I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines > >> to keep it > >> > MA> simple and self hosting. > >> > > >> > MA> Hope this helps. > >> > > >> > MA> Regards, > >> > > >> > MA> Marcel Ammerlaan > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Best regards, > >> > julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --- > >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: > >> > The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! > >> > NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! > >> > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en > >> > ___ > >> > Jboss-development mailing li
Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
yes that's a good idea and I was thinking about it. Dain could you send me details and contact infos ? A generic compiling service in jboss could be very usefull. That + AOP could make wonders. julien mf> julien, mf> why don't you try to bring some of these guys in to do the compiler for mf> NUKES? JSP like writing for advanced programmatic modules? mf> marcf >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom >> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming >> >> >> I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were >> interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and >> got busy on >> some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you the >> contact info. >> >> -dain >> >> On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote: >> >> > Hello Marcel, >> > >> > Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote: >> > >> > MA> julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >> >>> JD> Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was >> >>> more like >> >>> JD> PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development >> >>> language >> >>> JD> with its rich extensions and apis. >> >>> >> >>> we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished >> >>> having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with >> >>> a java compiler written in java and taking class def from >> >>> a classloader. >> >>> >> >>> That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would >> be great for >> >>> nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified >> >>> to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. >> > >> > MA> I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting >> Cocoon to work >> > MA> without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively >> > MA> easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are >> > resources >> > MA> to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at: >> > >> > cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get >> > code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - >> > deploy it >> > >> > pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can >> > have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that >> would help. >> > >> > MA> http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/ >> > >> > MA> I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and >> > extension >> > MA> classes needed to use it at: >> > http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip >> > >> > MA> I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines >> to keep it >> > MA> simple and self hosting. >> > >> > MA> Hope this helps. >> > >> > MA> Regards, >> > >> > MA> Marcel Ammerlaan >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: >> > The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! >> > NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! >> > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en >> > ___ >> > Jboss-development mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >> >> >> >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: >> The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! >> NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! >> http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en >> ___ >> Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >> mf> --- mf> This SF.net email is sponsored by: mf> The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! mf> NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! mf> http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en mf> ___ mf> Jboss-development mailing list mf> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mf> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
JD> It is certainly possible, though it does not look like the new features JD> will inhibit PHP folks from coding they way they do now. It just looks JD> like it will allow them to write better software. I spent the past 2 JD> weeks writing a PHP application and over and over I wished for features JD> like namespaces, exceptions and proper handling of object references. JD> So the changes are welcome in my mind. But really anything to make PHP JD> less like perl and more like Java/.NET is welcome. They will keep compatibility. JD> Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like JD> PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language JD> with its rich extensions and apis. we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with a java compiler written in java and taking class def from a classloader. That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would be great for nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. JD> --jason JD> On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 04:02 PM, julien viet wrote: >> not sure they will keep php community whith them. for me >> php success is settled on the fact php scripters don't have to worry >> about theses kinds of things. >> >> JD> Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring. I like it. >> >> JD> --jason >> >> >> JD> On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56 PM, julien viet wrote: >> sorry I gave a wrong link : http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro jv> have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net jv> they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. jv> it's mono powered. jv> it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have jv> to get more credibility for that. jv> julien jv> --- jv> This SF.net email is sponsored by: jv> The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! jv> NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! jv> http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en jv> ___ jv> Jboss-development mailing list jv> [EMAIL PROTECTED] jv> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >> >> >> >> JD> --- >> JD> This SF.net email is sponsored by: >> JD> The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! >> JD> NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! >> JD> http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en >> JD> ___ >> JD> Jboss-development mailing list >> JD> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> JD> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: >> The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! >> NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! >> http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en >> ___ >> Jboss-development mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >> JD> --- JD> This SF.net email is sponsored by: JD> The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! JD> NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! JD> http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en JD> ___ JD> Jboss-development mailing list JD> [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-de
