Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Tony Tortallini
y. I think Sun will be better off focusing exclusively on high-end solutions in telecom. They are starting to smell like Novell. - Original Message - From: "Guy Rouillier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Guy Rouillier
- Original Message - From: "Tony Tortallini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:28 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans > Blah blah blah ... but you still never rebutted my point about NetBeans > screwin

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Coleman
I needed a development environment for a J2ME component recently. The IBM "solution" looked much too involved, so I took a chance and downloaded the "Sun One Studio Mobile Edition". It's apparently based on NetBeans. The "Mobile Edition" is tightly integrated with Sun's "Wireless toolkit". It

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Tony Tortallini
ot;Curt Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans > In order to preserve the peace on the list, I set up a forum on the > website, under The Lizzard's Corner... > http://w

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Curt Johnson
In order to preserve the peace on the list, I set up a forum on the website, under The Lizzard's Corner... http://www.jboss.org/forums/thread.jsp?forum=91&thread=27889 If anyone has anything else to say on this topic, please do it there. Curt Johnson Tampa Open Source Java Guru Joao Mello wrote

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Curt Johnson
It does matter. Can you send patches to Sun for any of their servers? Can you fix problems that are holding up your project with Sun? You become dependent on Sun, or any proprietary app server vendor for that matter. Has Sun kept up with the pace of development in the community? Nope. What has Su

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Joao Mello
Please let's keep this as an online help. Keep your opinions and preference. I don't want do know. Thank you, Johm --- Nicholas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps not, but it's **certified**, so it does not > even matter if it sucks. > > > --- Keene Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "As fo

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Nicholas
Perhaps not, but it's **certified**, so it does not even matter if it sucks. --- Keene Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "As for open source app servers, we already > got one. It's called the Sun ONE app server." > > SunOne is open source? I don't see any source > code... > > > > > > ==

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Keene Hammond
"As for open source app servers, we already got one. It's called the Sun ONE app server." SunOne is open source? I don't see any source code...      

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Curt Johnson
st. There's enough misinformation on the net already. Curt Johnson Tampa Open Source Java Guru - Original Message - From: "Curt Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-03 Thread Tony Tortallini
ut that in your JBoss pipe 'n smoke it. http://www.oetrends.com/cgi-bin/page_display.cgi?77 - Original Message - From: "Curt Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBe

Re: [JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-02 Thread Curt Johnson
Tony Tortallini wrote: I recommend against using the NetBeans IDE for application development. I think it's important to have a community process, open specs, and choice for the customer, absolutely. How that gets implemented, I don't particularly care. I actually think we need more revenue in th

[JBoss-user] Say No to NetBeans

2003-02-02 Thread Tony Tortallini
I recommend against using the NetBeans IDE for application development. I think it's important to have a community process, open specs, and choice for the customer, absolutely. How that gets implemented, I don't particularly care. I actually think we need more revenue in the Java IDE space, so that