Re: [jdev] regarding smack API

2005-03-23 Thread Trejkaz
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:30, vimal kumar wrote: hi members, i have downloaded smack an API to communicate with jabber in java. Is It possible to develope shared whiteboard using smack API. since we have to complete our project reply soon. There are a number of ways you might want to do this,

[jdev] Whiteboard - regd.

2005-03-23 Thread vimal kumar
Dear Friends, I am working on whiteboarding using jabber. I would like to know if there are any protocol recommendations/ pointers to the same. Thanking you, With warm regards, Vimal Kumar ___ jdev mailing list jdev@jabber.org

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Matthias Wimmer
Hi Peter, hi Matt, ... Matt Tucker schrieb am 2005-03-22 17:37:25: You could use zero-configuration networking for the discovery: To add to this thread, we already support multicast DNS (called Rendezvous by Apple) in Jive Messenger (Open Source server at http://www.jivesoftware.org). May I

[jdev] Is the list moderated?

2005-03-23 Thread Krishna Prashanth
Hi All, I have posted two messages to this mailing list, it doesnt seem to get delivered to me, is it because, the sender is not sent a mail by the mailing list manager? So, I am not sure if you are reading my messages. Thanks, -Praz. ___ jdev mailing

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Julian Missig
On 23 Mar 2005, at 0:31, Justin Karneges wrote: On Tuesday 22 March 2005 05:31 pm, Julian Missig wrote: On 22 Mar 2005, at 20:00, Justin Karneges wrote: Ignoring how iChat may or may not do it, I figure the most straightforward answer would be to have the clients perform the xmpp-core s2s protocol

Re: [jdev] Is the list moderated?

2005-03-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 06:16:53PM +0300, Alexey Nezhdanov wrote: And this list is not moderated AFAIK. If by moderated you mean that each message must be approved, then this list is not moderated. If by moderated you mean that someone (i.e., me) is watching what you say and he will kick you

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 08:31:54PM -0500, Julian Missig wrote: Honestly, I prefer iChat's approach. Clients already have client libraries that speak the c2s protocol. You strip out some of the login/auth stuff and just use c2s to one another. That requires a lot less new implementation

[jdev] jivesoftware.org?

2005-03-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
FYI, it seems that jivesoftware.org is not responding to HTTP requests. /psa ___ jdev mailing list jdev@jabber.org http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Justin Karneges
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 06:27 am, Julian Missig wrote: On 23 Mar 2005, at 0:31, Justin Karneges wrote: 3) stanzas need to indicate both the 'to' and the 'from' (since either workstation might have multiple users. yes, I think we should be forward thinking here). Ok, this is

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Julian Missig
On 23 Mar 2005, at 16:00, Justin Karneges wrote: On Wednesday 23 March 2005 06:27 am, Julian Missig wrote: On 23 Mar 2005, at 0:31, Justin Karneges wrote: 3) stanzas need to indicate both the 'to' and the 'from' (since either workstation might have multiple users. yes, I think we should be

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Justin Karneges
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 01:13 pm, Julian Missig wrote: Yes, except that the iChat way of doing this makes a *lot* of sense. I don't know how you're expecting to to distribute presence using DNS- SD, but with iChat, the service it's advertising *is* the presence. So this is sort of by

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Julian Missig
On 23 Mar 2005, at 16:47, Justin Karneges wrote: On Wednesday 23 March 2005 01:13 pm, Julian Missig wrote: Yes, except that the iChat way of doing this makes a *lot* of sense. I don't know how you're expecting to to distribute presence using DNS- SD, but with iChat, the service it's advertising

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Justin Karneges
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 02:07 pm, Julian Missig wrote: I don't mean to be presumptuous or rude, but I really don't think you've thought through DNS-SD and how peer-to-peer Jabber would work with it nearly enough... Probably not. I was just trying to see how much of our own protocol we

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Julian Missig
On 23 Mar 2005, at 18:33, Justin Karneges wrote: On Wednesday 23 March 2005 02:07 pm, Julian Missig wrote: I don't mean to be presumptuous or rude, but I really don't think you've thought through DNS-SD and how peer-to-peer Jabber would work with it nearly enough... Probably not. I was just

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Anthony Ortiz
Okay, I'm confused... am I to understand that the jabber protocol can be implemented over UDP/TCP-multicast?? I can see now how it would sort of work... is there a JEP on this??? I would assume that it would follow something along these lines : 1) client broadcasts its presence (stream:stream

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Julian Missig
On 23 Mar 2005, at 19:13, Anthony Ortiz wrote: Okay, I'm confused... am I to understand that the jabber protocol can be implemented over UDP/TCP-multicast?? I can see now how it would sort of work... is there a JEP on this??? I would assume that it would follow something along these lines : 1)

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Anthony Ortiz
I SEE!!! said the blind man to the deaf man... That seems like an interesting idea, though I think the current jabber protocol doesn't allow for this (am I right?) UDP/Multicast chatting is old-school, but I had never thought of using xmpp over it. I'm curious though... under this system, Jabber

Re: [jdev] discovery services

2005-03-23 Thread Julian Missig
There is no such thing as a JabberID in this system. JabberIDs are [EMAIL PROTECTED], and depend upon having a server. Identification in this system is dependent upon Multicast DNS and DNS- SD, which is how you get the IPs to connect to, the machine names, etc. All of that stuff is thus