Re: [jdev] List Activity

2006-11-13 Thread Hal Rottenberg
On 11/13/06, Stanczak Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. Why so little activity here? Standards wouldn't seem where stuff would be. No reason. S-JIG doesn't have more volume necessarily, but it did past few days. I think there's just not much going on, that's all. Maybe if Google had a

Re: [jdev] List Activity

2006-11-13 Thread Maciek Niedzielski
Stanczak Group wrote: Ok. Why so little activity here? Standards wouldn't seem where stuff would be. You could say (for fun ;)) that this list is to discuss problems with protocols designed by Standards-JIG people. So if they do their job well, then there's not so much activity here ;) --

[jdev] Use Question

2006-11-13 Thread Stanczak Group
My only question would be what weaknesses does XMPP have. I would like to deliver lots of content as well as live interaction. I'm looking at using Wildfire and Smack, with XStream probably. Any advice would be great. I'm pretty open. -- Justin Stanczak Stanczak Group 812-735-3600 All that

Re: [jdev] List Activity

2006-11-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Stanczak Group wrote: Ok. Why so little activity here? Standards wouldn't seem where stuff would be. As others have said, most developer conversation takes place nowadays on the forums/lists/websites of particular software projects. In the early days, there was only one main project (the

[jdev] wikipedia pages

2006-11-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
FYI and FWIW, I've created this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jabber_library_software I've also edited this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP /psa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [jdev] wikipedia pages

2006-11-13 Thread Matthias Wimmer
Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: FYI and FWIW, I've created this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jabber_library_software That seems to be an excelent place for the list of available Jabber libraries. Matthias -- Matthias Wimmer Fon +49-700 77 00 77 70 Züricher Str. 243Fax

Re: [jdev] wikipedia pages

2006-11-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Matthias Wimmer wrote: Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: FYI and FWIW, I've created this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jabber_library_software That seems to be an excelent place for the list of available Jabber libraries. Well, we already had these pages:

[jdev] JabberCom

2006-11-13 Thread ARP
Hi Guys,I am trying to connect to host 'talk.google.com' using JabberCom and Delphi 7, but JabberCom send the following xml line to server:stream:stream to="talk.google.com" xmlns="jabber:client" xmlns:stream="http://etherx.jabber.org/streams"And I receive the following xml from

Re: [jdev] Beginning Jabber Client Development!

2006-11-13 Thread Mikael Hallendal
13 nov 2006 kl. 21.48 skrev Sönmez Kartal: Hi, It depends very much on what language you are planning to use and whether you plan to write it all yourself or use an existing Jabber/ XMPP library to do the XML parsing and session handling or not. Cheers, Mikael Hallendal Hi, I want to

Re: [jdev] Beginning Jabber Client Development!

2006-11-13 Thread Artur Hefczyc
I'll use Java language and I didn't decide to write all stuff myself or use an existing library. Can you tell me for both of them? There is already a similar project working on Jabber/XMPP client and library in Java. It is in very early stage but maybe instead of starting your new project you

Re: [jdev] Beginning Jabber Client Development!

2006-11-13 Thread Sönmez Kartal
Hi, I'll do this client application for commercial use. I'm on open source side but I have to live too! :-) That's the why I said beginning. I'll build this application for a company's solution. It will be a part of commercial solution. I cannot use an open source project. Is this means I'll

[jdev] Re: JabberCom

2006-11-13 Thread Alexander Gnauck
I am trying to connect to host 'talk.google.com' using JabberCom and Delphi 7, but JabberCom send the following xml line to server: JabberCom was not updated for many years. It's not XMPP 1.0 compatible which is the reason you are not able to connect to GTalk with JabberCom. You should use

Re: [jdev] Beginning Jabber Client Development!

2006-11-13 Thread Joonas Govenius
On 11/13/06, Sönmez Kartal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll do this client application for commercial use. I'm on open source side but I have to live too! :-) That's the why I said beginning. I'll build this application for a company's solution. It will be a part of commercial solution. I

[jdev] Re: JabberCom

2006-11-13 Thread Alexandre
Thanks Alex, Do you know some another library that can be used with delphi 7 ? Thx Alexandre Brazil Alexander Gnauck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am trying to connect to host 'talk.google.com' using JabberCom and Delphi 7, but JabberCom send the following

Re: [jdev] Beginning Jabber Client Development!

2006-11-13 Thread Sonmez Kartal
Hi, Thank you Joonas. I will add a custom feature to a generic client. We researched many products but nothing has that feature. I have to implement it myself. I can't use a GPL software, so, I guess I'll write all stuff myself. Jive doesn't gives source codes of Spark what is the Jabbar

Re: [jdev] Beginning Jabber Client Development!

2006-11-13 Thread Andreas Monitzer
On Nov 13, 2006, at 23:42, Sonmez Kartal wrote: Thank you Joonas. I will add a custom feature to a generic client. We researched many products but nothing has that feature. I have to implement it myself. I can't use a GPL software, so, I guess I'll write all stuff myself. Jive doesn't

Re: [jdev] Beginning Jabber Client Development!

2006-11-13 Thread Sonmez Kartal
Thank you! I guess I'll use this. Sonmez Kartal http://ulakproject.blogspot.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:46:47 +0100 To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] Beginning Jabber Client Development! On Nov 13, 2006, at

Re: [jdev] Beginning Jabber Client Development!

2006-11-13 Thread Daniel Noll
But they do give you Smack under the Apache License: http://jivesoftware.org/smack/ Spark should be available as well, at least they were working on releasing the source. Spark is most certainly open source. To be precise, the code is licenced under the LGPL. Source files are here:

Re: [jdev] Use Question

2006-11-13 Thread Stanczak Group
I see you're a Jive person, will Jive be releasing Wildfire under LGPL or Apache some time? Matt Tucker wrote: Justin, XMPP isn't perfect for everything of course, and you didn't provide a lot of detail about your use case. Delivering content and live interaction sounds like a very good fit,

RE: [jdev] Use Question

2006-11-13 Thread Matt Tucker
Justin, There are no plans to move Wildfire from GPL to LGPL or Apache. It's pretty important for our Open Source business model that we're able to charge organizations that embed Wildfire into their commercial apps (and hence purchase a commercial license agreement from us). If you're

Re: [jdev] Use Question

2006-11-13 Thread Stanczak Group
See that's where I don't completely understand. First let me say I'm ok either way. I can release whatever I make under GPL. You say embed, but the site says plugins. So I guess my question is, if I develop a plugin to Wildfire does it have to be released, or can it be commercial? At first I

RE: [jdev] Use Question

2006-11-13 Thread Matt Tucker
Justin, Wildfire is dual-licensed, which means we offer it under the GPL as well as a commercial license. That's why we're able to offer the Wildfire Enterprise plugin commercially. If you have any questions about writing commercial Wildfire plugins, please ping us directly by email. If you

Re: [jdev] Use Question

2006-11-13 Thread Stanczak Group
I already sent the email off a couple days ago. Matt Tucker wrote: Justin, Wildfire is dual-licensed, which means we offer it under the GPL as well as a commercial license. That's why we're able to offer the Wildfire Enterprise plugin commercially. If you have any questions about writing