Re: [jdev] OLPC, Federation, and NAT

2008-04-08 Thread Alexander Gnauck
Benjamin M. Schwartz schrieb: Unfortunately, it is possible that multiple school servers will be using different ports on the same global IPv4 address. The result would be multiple servers with the same IP address. I imagine that this breaks s2s, since the XMPP standard seems to demand that serv

[jdev] OLPC, Federation, and NAT

2008-04-08 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Jabber Developers, I am a volunteer for the One Laptop Per Child foundation. OLPC uses XMPP for much of its communications infrastructure. All "Collaborative Activities" use XMPP to share information between laptops. In schools where there is

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Daniel Henninger wrote: >> I don't disagree from the client perspective. But my philosophy has >> always been to make XMPP as great as it can be, then everyone else will >> eventually decide that they need to use XMPP and not some proprietary >> garbage. > > I won't get into my diatribe about why

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Daniel Henninger
Ok, I’ll believe it when I see it. Daniel On 4/8/08 5:48 PM, "Tomasz Sterna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dnia 2008-04-08, wto o godzinie 18:08 +, Daniel Henninger pisze: > I won't get into my diatribe about why I think that will never happen. People were saying the same about SMTP. You know

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Tomasz Sterna
Dnia 2008-04-08, wto o godzinie 18:08 +, Daniel Henninger pisze: > I won't get into my diatribe about why I think that will never happen. People were saying the same about SMTP. You know - this marginal protocol used to bridge proprietary Electronic Mail systems... -- /\_./o__ Tomasz Ster

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Daniel Henninger
> I don't disagree from the client perspective. But my philosophy has > always been to make XMPP as great as it can be, then everyone else will > eventually decide that they need to use XMPP and not some proprietary > garbage. I won't get into my diatribe about why I think that will never happen.

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Sander Devrieze wrote: > 2008/4/8, Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I am not convinced that working on transports is an >> appropriate topic for the Google Summer of Code. I plan to give my votes >> to projects that improve or extend XMPP itself, not provide bridges to >> closed technol

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Sander Devrieze
2008/4/8, Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am not convinced that working on transports is an > appropriate topic for the Google Summer of Code. I plan to give my votes > to projects that improve or extend XMPP itself, not provide bridges to > closed technologies. I do not agree on thi

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Florent wrote: > Hi all, > > I have seen this week only that James Bunton no longer wanted to continue > developing the MSN transport, since all his friends are now using Jabber. Perhaps that's a sign of the times. :) > I'm also applying for two other GSoC projects, but this one is the most > mo