Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-27 Thread Alexey Nezhdanov
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 02:55:16 Andreas Monitzer wrote: On Nov 27, 2007, at 00:07, Jesus Cea wrote: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/1324201 FYI, Adium and Pidgin implement OTR on top of XMPP. andy Not just these two. XMPP have specification for pgp usage on top of xmpp,

Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-27 Thread Dave Cridland
On Tue Nov 27 16:19:38 2007, Alexey Nezhdanov wrote: Not just these two. XMPP have specification for pgp usage on top of xmpp, I use it sometimes with Psi client and I am sure that at least some other clients support it as well. And there's ESessions, and S/MIME, and XTLS... The problem

Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-27 Thread David Eisner
On Nov 27, 2007 12:17 PM, Dave Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once all this is done, simply count the power stations in the target area (Google Maps, or simply go and look - you can certainly drive around the Doughnut in Cheltenham). Here's another take on this: As it turns out, most

Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-27 Thread david . lyon
Quoting Alexey Nezhdanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 27 November 2007 02:55:16 Andreas Monitzer wrote: On Nov 27, 2007, at 00:07, Jesus Cea wrote: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/1324201 FYI, Adium and Pidgin implement OTR on top of XMPP. andy Not just these two. XMPP have

Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-27 Thread Sander Devrieze
2007/11/27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: begs the question; if you are not a highly wanted criminal.. why encrypt ? For example, because you don't want the highly wanted criminal to capture the password of your bank account which you are receiving in real-time over a secured XMPP

Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-27 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Dave Cridland wrote: On Tue Nov 27 16:19:38 2007, Alexey Nezhdanov wrote: Not just these two. XMPP have specification for pgp usage on top of xmpp, I use it sometimes with Psi client and I am sure that at least some other clients support it as well. And there's ESessions, and S/MIME, and

Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-27 Thread david . lyon
Quoting Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/11/27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: begs the question; if you are not a highly wanted criminal.. why encrypt ? For example, because you don't want the highly wanted criminal to capture the password of your bank account which you are

[jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-26 Thread Jesus Cea
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Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-26 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Jesus Cea wrote: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/1324201 If only we had a way to protect ourselves from the idiot commenters at Slashdot... smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-26 Thread david . lyon
Hi Jesus, Interesting topic... :-) who are they kidding ? The long and short of it is that nothing you can short of setting up your own bunkers is going to keep your conversations private. In my country, we have a non-spying agreement with our allies, but guess what, whilst we follow it,

Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-26 Thread Andreas Monitzer
On Nov 27, 2007, at 00:07, Jesus Cea wrote: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/1324201 FYI, Adium and Pidgin implement OTR on top of XMPP. andy

Re: [jdev] Protecting IM From Big Brother

2007-11-26 Thread Michael Schmidt
Instant Messaging was yesterday, today it is secure F2F right from the beginning: http://retroshare.sf.net 2007/11/27, Andreas Monitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 27, 2007, at 00:07, Jesus Cea wrote: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/1324201