Re: Apply to become a queue clean up plugin maintainer

[Oleg Nenashev]

Please add the current maintainer to CC in this thread

On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 4:47:03 PM UTC+1, 夏润泽 wrote:
>
> Hi jenkins developers:
>
> When I want to improve the queue clean up plugin, the current maintainer 
> marks the plugin as exploit. Now I want to apply for the maintainer of the 
> queue clean up plugin.
> https://github.com/jenkinsci/queue-cleanup-plugin/pull/1
>
> Github Id : runzexia
> Jenkins infrastructure account id:runzexia
>
>

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Re: Trademark sublicense request: Jenkins WeChat Account in China

[Kohsuke Kawaguchi]

I'm really excited with the prospect of Jenkins project getting WeChat
presence. I've been to China a few times myself, I have my own WeChat
account, and I know how big and ubiquitous this is over there.

That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is that I
don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any other
participant for that matter. The idea of this WeChat account is for it to
be the "official" Jenkins account on WeChat. Trademark sublicensing request
is to allow the requester to use the name in question for their purposes
outside official community activity.

>From the community's perspective, where this manifests as a question is how
to share the access to this account with others. For example, what if
Alauda moves on and stops engaging the Jenkins community? What if it gets
acquired? I'm not assuming any malice or meaning to distrust anybody here,
but it's a part of the basic safe guards for shared community assets. This
asset is to be controlled by the community, not by Alauda --- I think
everyone agrees on that here, but let's be very clear about that!

I think the right thing to do is to setup an account that does not require
any company, Alauda or not, to proxy this. Then provided that this is
reasonably easily possible, this account should be tied and owned by the
email address of some community team, say infra team or Chinese
Localization SIG. Then when it comes to the actual operation of this, I
think it's great that Xiaojie is stepping up to the plate. All the powers
to him!!  IIUC, that's "subscription account" and not "service account."

None of this should involve trademark sublicensing, because this IS the
official community effort whose authority is chained to the existing
governance structure.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 12:22 AM arch  wrote:

> On behalf on Alauda, I'd like to request the permission to use
> the following name that uses 'Jenkins' in it: "Jenkins WeChat Account".
>
> WeChat is a very popular app in China. Most of the people have a WeChat
> account in here. So I thought it's a great place to help grow the Jenkins
> Community. We will post some events like JAM on it. And some articles
> (original or translated from jenkins.io) is helpful for many Jenkins
> users.
>
> You can find out more about discussing details in here:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTGjLOg7m1uzXHxZaxTd4QFiRXjknBNOsegQ4JjTkkyH2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer
>
> Thank you.
> Best!
>
> Rick (Zhao Xiaojie)
>
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Re: Proposal: Pipeline Authoring SIG

[steventerrana]

Hey Andrew,

Excited to see this being kicked off.  Let me know how I can help! 


On Monday, October 15, 2018 at 5:12:13 AM UTC-4, Andrew Bayer wrote:
>
> I’d like to propose the creation of a “Pipeline Authoring” SIG, with 
> myself as the lead. The focus of this SIG would be on improving all aspects 
> of the user experience around authoring Jenkins Pipeline. This includes: 
> * Syntax and structure
> * Extensibility, code reuse, and code sharing
> * Testability
> * Documentation
> * Tooling for Pipeline authors (like Snippet Generator, Directive 
> Generator, IDE integration, etc)
> * Best practices (including tooling for gentle nudges in the direction of 
> best practices)
> * Examples/"starter Jenkinsfiles" for various scenarios, etc
>
> While at Jenkins World I was able to discuss this idea with a number of 
> people.  Response was universally positive. Here are a few examples:
>
> * Steven Terrana (from Booz Allen) has done work on code sharing and reuse 
> in (https://github.com/boozallen/sdp-pipeline-framework) and is 
> interested in making some form of that available to the Jenkins community. 
> * Austin Witt (from HomeAway) has created on a groovy testing framework 
> for Jenkins Pipeline (https://github.com/homeaway/jenkins-spock/) 
> * Liam Newman (from CloudBees) has written and edited quite a bit of 
> documentation for  Jenkins Pipeline and provided feedback on the design on 
> a number of Pipeline feature.  He expressed a desire to continue expanding 
> and improving on that documentation.
> * And Kohsuke basically demanded that we do this. =) 
>  
> While this is not a large group, it was enough to convince me that this is 
> an area that deserve a SIG. There is strong interest from a number of 
> people  number and the area is also not covered by existing SIGs. 
>
> If you’d like to be part of the initial group of participants, please 
> respond on this thread. Other feedback and suggestion are also welcome. I 
> will create the appropriate SIG pages and channels in a few days.  We can 
> start figuring out where to focus our efforts first and can schedule the 
> group’s regular meetings to start some time after DevOps World - Jenkins 
> World in Nice .
>
> A.  
>
>

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Apply to become a queue clean up plugin maintainer

[夏润泽]

Hi jenkins developers:

When I want to improve the queue clean up plugin, the current maintainer 
marks the plugin as exploit. Now I want to apply for the maintainer of the 
queue clean up plugin.
https://github.com/jenkinsci/queue-cleanup-plugin/pull/1

Github Id : runzexia
Jenkins infrastructure account id:runzexia

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Re: Scriptler alpha version

[wfollonier]

Hey Domi, that's a really great news!

On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 10:47:19 AM UTC+2, domi wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> I finally managed to pump out a new Version of the Scriptler Plugin. It 
> used to have a couple of security issues which are solved now. 
> Do to all the changes made, I decided to do a major version update and 
> also first release a alpha version to the experimental update center 
> (3.0-alpha): 
> https://jenkins.io/doc/developer/publishing/releasing-experimental-updates/ 
>
> What do I have to do to make Scripler appear on https://plugins.jenkins.io 
> again? 
>
> Regards 
> Domi

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Trademark sublicense request: Jenkins WeChat Account in China

[arch]

On behalf on Alauda, I'd like to request the permission to use
the following name that uses 'Jenkins' in it: "Jenkins WeChat Account".

WeChat is a very popular app in China. Most of the people have a WeChat
account in here. So I thought it's a great place to help grow the Jenkins
Community. We will post some events like JAM on it. And some articles
(original or translated from jenkins.io) is helpful for many Jenkins users.

You can find out more about discussing details in here:
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTGjLOg7m1uzXHxZaxTd4QFiRXjknBNOsegQ4JjTkkyH2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer

Thank you.
Best!

Rick (Zhao Xiaojie)

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Re: Growing community via a stronger Twitter presence

[Oleg Nenashev]

No need in JIRA.
Please just start a new Developer ML thread (this one is about Twitter) and
add the item to the next governance meeting agenda

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:02 AM arch  wrote:

> About trademark. Do I need to create an issue in JIRA or other places?
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:55 PM arch  wrote:
>
>> We all agree with this. I think it's good for Jenkins Community and
>> Chinese users(developers). It could let more Chinese people get messages
>> and information from Jenkins Community. So if there are no other concerns.
>> I'll work on this.
>> First of all, I going to make sure every contributor in China
>> could involve it. I think that create a repo in jenkins-infra to store
>> articles is a good way. So people could review the article.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:06 PM arch  wrote:
>>
>>> We should think about the concerns. But maybe running WeChat Service
>>> Account in a local company is a better solution for now. To make sure the
>>> Jenkins Board members have the full control is necessary. So other people
>>> could make a request to join the management team. I'll discuss about the
>>> details with my company.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:52 PM Oleg Nenashev 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yes, it was discussed above.
 Jenkins project cannot provide this data, because it has no legal
 entity.

 My suggestion would be to register a chat on a local company as you
 suggested above:

1. Select a name for the chat, e.g. "Jenkins WeChat Channel" or
whatever cool (I am bad at naming)
2. Approve Trademark at the Jenkins Governance meeting:
https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/Approved+Trademark+Usage
3. Send WeChat registration request

 Such approach would allow to make the chat official and to prevent
 concerns from other community members about the chat being operated by a
 company.
 W.r.t the company to own the trademark, it may be your company as
 suggested above. Or maybe another company if we are able to find a partner
 interested in it.

 Best regards,
 Oleg



 On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:12 AM arch  wrote:

> For WeChat Offical Accounts Platform, there are four account types. At
> first, I prefer the Service Account. But I need Organization name and 
> Organization
> Code if I choose Service Account.
> Maybe I should take the Subscription Account.
> You can find more details in here
> https://mp.weixin.qq.com/cgi-bin/registermidpage?action=index=en_US=
> .
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 6:00 PM Baptiste Mathus  wrote:
>
>> Hey I think you'll need to treat us, at least me, as kids with
>> regards to this.
>> I've personally no idea what an 'organization number' means and how
>> the Jenkins Project would ever get one.
>>
>> Le mar. 30 oct. 2018 à 03:25, arch  a écrit :
>>
>>> As we discussed before. It'll need an organization number for
>>> creating WeChat.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:58 AM Oleg Nenashev <
>>> o.v.nenas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I would like to get access to the Jenkins Twitter account so that I
 can help with tweets in the EU timezone and with GSoC-related stuff. 
 Would
 it be possible?

 W.R.T WeChat, just go forward IMO. It may require a trademark usage
 request, but I do not see blockers from our side.

 BR, Oleg

 On Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 04:06 arch >>>
> Hi racy Miranda, did I missed the meeting? I'd like to take the 
> initiative
> to work on Jenkins in Wechat.
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:15 PM arch  wrote:
>
>> OK, I have joined the room. I'd like to discuss this.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 6:44 PM Tracy Miranda <
>> tmira...@cloudbees.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As an update this is progressing.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all those who would like to be involved. For now I
>>> recommend you join https://gitter.im/jenkinsci/jenkins-community
>>> and tag me on tweet suggestions and I will schedule them out to go 
>>> out.
>>> Then we can work on expanding the fold to make this easier.
>>>
>>> For WeChat, that would be good to do but looks like there are
>>> some potential legal issues to sort out. Maybe we can schedule a 
>>> call next
>>> week to discuss?
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:21 PM, arch 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 How is it going?

 On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:32 PM arch 
 wrote:

> There isn't any description of this in WeChat website. It just
> requires an organization number. We can try 

Re: Growing community via a stronger Twitter presence

[arch]

About trademark. Do I need to create an issue in JIRA or other places?

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:55 PM arch  wrote:

> We all agree with this. I think it's good for Jenkins Community and
> Chinese users(developers). It could let more Chinese people get messages
> and information from Jenkins Community. So if there are no other concerns.
> I'll work on this.
> First of all, I going to make sure every contributor in China
> could involve it. I think that create a repo in jenkins-infra to store
> articles is a good way. So people could review the article.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:06 PM arch  wrote:
>
>> We should think about the concerns. But maybe running WeChat Service
>> Account in a local company is a better solution for now. To make sure the
>> Jenkins Board members have the full control is necessary. So other people
>> could make a request to join the management team. I'll discuss about the
>> details with my company.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:52 PM Oleg Nenashev 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it was discussed above.
>>> Jenkins project cannot provide this data, because it has no legal entity.
>>>
>>> My suggestion would be to register a chat on a local company as you
>>> suggested above:
>>>
>>>1. Select a name for the chat, e.g. "Jenkins WeChat Channel" or
>>>whatever cool (I am bad at naming)
>>>2. Approve Trademark at the Jenkins Governance meeting:
>>>https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/Approved+Trademark+Usage
>>>3. Send WeChat registration request
>>>
>>> Such approach would allow to make the chat official and to prevent
>>> concerns from other community members about the chat being operated by a
>>> company.
>>> W.r.t the company to own the trademark, it may be your company as
>>> suggested above. Or maybe another company if we are able to find a partner
>>> interested in it.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Oleg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:12 AM arch  wrote:
>>>
 For WeChat Offical Accounts Platform, there are four account types. At
 first, I prefer the Service Account. But I need Organization name and 
 Organization
 Code if I choose Service Account.
 Maybe I should take the Subscription Account.
 You can find more details in here
 https://mp.weixin.qq.com/cgi-bin/registermidpage?action=index=en_US=
 .

 On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 6:00 PM Baptiste Mathus  wrote:

> Hey I think you'll need to treat us, at least me, as kids with regards
> to this.
> I've personally no idea what an 'organization number' means and how
> the Jenkins Project would ever get one.
>
> Le mar. 30 oct. 2018 à 03:25, arch  a écrit :
>
>> As we discussed before. It'll need an organization number for
>> creating WeChat.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:58 AM Oleg Nenashev 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to get access to the Jenkins Twitter account so that I
>>> can help with tweets in the EU timezone and with GSoC-related stuff. 
>>> Would
>>> it be possible?
>>>
>>> W.R.T WeChat, just go forward IMO. It may require a trademark usage
>>> request, but I do not see blockers from our side.
>>>
>>> BR, Oleg
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 04:06 arch >>
 Hi racy Miranda, did I missed the meeting? I'd like to take the 
 initiative
 to work on Jenkins in Wechat.

 On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:15 PM arch  wrote:

> OK, I have joined the room. I'd like to discuss this.
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 6:44 PM Tracy Miranda <
> tmira...@cloudbees.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As an update this is progressing.
>>
>> Thanks to all those who would like to be involved. For now I
>> recommend you join https://gitter.im/jenkinsci/jenkins-community
>> and tag me on tweet suggestions and I will schedule them out to go 
>> out.
>> Then we can work on expanding the fold to make this easier.
>>
>> For WeChat, that would be good to do but looks like there are
>> some potential legal issues to sort out. Maybe we can schedule a 
>> call next
>> week to discuss?
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:21 PM, arch 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How is it going?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:32 PM arch 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There isn't any description of this in WeChat website. It just
 requires an organization number. We can try it. Or if you think 
 it's ok
 then I can apply the account as the name of my company.
 Yes, we can't talk about policy in China.

 On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 7:43 AM Oleg Nenashev <
 o.v.nenas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> But there is one problem, only 

Re: Growing community via a stronger Twitter presence

[arch]

We all agree with this. I think it's good for Jenkins Community and Chinese
users(developers). It could let more Chinese people get messages and
information from Jenkins Community. So if there are no other concerns. I'll
work on this.
First of all, I going to make sure every contributor in China
could involve it. I think that create a repo in jenkins-infra to store
articles is a good way. So people could review the article.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:06 PM arch  wrote:

> We should think about the concerns. But maybe running WeChat Service
> Account in a local company is a better solution for now. To make sure the
> Jenkins Board members have the full control is necessary. So other people
> could make a request to join the management team. I'll discuss about the
> details with my company.
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:52 PM Oleg Nenashev 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, it was discussed above.
>> Jenkins project cannot provide this data, because it has no legal entity.
>>
>> My suggestion would be to register a chat on a local company as you
>> suggested above:
>>
>>1. Select a name for the chat, e.g. "Jenkins WeChat Channel" or
>>whatever cool (I am bad at naming)
>>2. Approve Trademark at the Jenkins Governance meeting:
>>https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/Approved+Trademark+Usage
>>3. Send WeChat registration request
>>
>> Such approach would allow to make the chat official and to prevent
>> concerns from other community members about the chat being operated by a
>> company.
>> W.r.t the company to own the trademark, it may be your company as
>> suggested above. Or maybe another company if we are able to find a partner
>> interested in it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Oleg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:12 AM arch  wrote:
>>
>>> For WeChat Offical Accounts Platform, there are four account types. At
>>> first, I prefer the Service Account. But I need Organization name and 
>>> Organization
>>> Code if I choose Service Account.
>>> Maybe I should take the Subscription Account.
>>> You can find more details in here
>>> https://mp.weixin.qq.com/cgi-bin/registermidpage?action=index=en_US=
>>> .
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 6:00 PM Baptiste Mathus  wrote:
>>>
 Hey I think you'll need to treat us, at least me, as kids with regards
 to this.
 I've personally no idea what an 'organization number' means and how the
 Jenkins Project would ever get one.

 Le mar. 30 oct. 2018 à 03:25, arch  a écrit :

> As we discussed before. It'll need an organization number for creating
> WeChat.
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:58 AM Oleg Nenashev 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to get access to the Jenkins Twitter account so that I
>> can help with tweets in the EU timezone and with GSoC-related stuff. 
>> Would
>> it be possible?
>>
>> W.R.T WeChat, just go forward IMO. It may require a trademark usage
>> request, but I do not see blockers from our side.
>>
>> BR, Oleg
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 04:06 arch >
>>> Hi racy Miranda, did I missed the meeting? I'd like to take the 
>>> initiative
>>> to work on Jenkins in Wechat.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:15 PM arch  wrote:
>>>
 OK, I have joined the room. I'd like to discuss this.

 On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 6:44 PM Tracy Miranda <
 tmira...@cloudbees.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As an update this is progressing.
>
> Thanks to all those who would like to be involved. For now I
> recommend you join https://gitter.im/jenkinsci/jenkins-community
> and tag me on tweet suggestions and I will schedule them out to go 
> out.
> Then we can work on expanding the fold to make this easier.
>
> For WeChat, that would be good to do but looks like there are some
> potential legal issues to sort out. Maybe we can schedule a call next 
> week
> to discuss?
>
> Tracy
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:21 PM, arch 
> wrote:
>
>> How is it going?
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:32 PM arch 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There isn't any description of this in WeChat website. It just
>>> requires an organization number. We can try it. Or if you think 
>>> it's ok
>>> then I can apply the account as the name of my company.
>>> Yes, we can't talk about policy in China.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 7:43 AM Oleg Nenashev <
>>> o.v.nenas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 But there is one problem, only enterprise or organization can
> register. If we want to do this, we need Jenkins support.
>

 Jenkins has no legal entity, it leaves under umbrella of SPI
 . I am not sure