I'm really excited with the prospect of Jenkins project getting WeChat presence. I've been to China a few times myself, I have my own WeChat account, and I know how big and ubiquitous this is over there.
That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is that I don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any other participant for that matter. The idea of this WeChat account is for it to be the "official" Jenkins account on WeChat. Trademark sublicensing request is to allow the requester to use the name in question for their purposes outside official community activity. >From the community's perspective, where this manifests as a question is how to share the access to this account with others. For example, what if Alauda moves on and stops engaging the Jenkins community? What if it gets acquired? I'm not assuming any malice or meaning to distrust anybody here, but it's a part of the basic safe guards for shared community assets. This asset is to be controlled by the community, not by Alauda --- I think everyone agrees on that here, but let's be very clear about that! I think the right thing to do is to setup an account that does not require any company, Alauda or not, to proxy this. Then provided that this is reasonably easily possible, this account should be tied and owned by the email address of some community team, say infra team or Chinese Localization SIG. Then when it comes to the actual operation of this, I think it's great that Xiaojie is stepping up to the plate. All the powers to him!! IIUC, that's "subscription account" and not "service account." None of this should involve trademark sublicensing, because this IS the official community effort whose authority is chained to the existing governance structure. On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 12:22 AM arch <[email protected]> wrote: > On behalf on Alauda, I'd like to request the permission to use > the following name that uses 'Jenkins' in it: "Jenkins WeChat Account". > > WeChat is a very popular app in China. Most of the people have a WeChat > account in here. So I thought it's a great place to help grow the Jenkins > Community. We will post some events like JAM on it. And some articles > (original or translated from jenkins.io) is helpful for many Jenkins > users. > > You can find out more about discussing details in here: > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTGjLOg7m1uzXHxZaxTd4QFiRXjknBNOsegQ4JjTkkyH2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > > Thank you. > Best! > > Rick (Zhao Xiaojie) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFvfAKco%3DRxJ6jXCmwX39%2ByexfC1s8TZLwGSZ4dTLberQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFvfAKco%3DRxJ6jXCmwX39%2ByexfC1s8TZLwGSZ4dTLberQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kohsuke Kawaguchi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAN4CQ4xu0s7qMZUhx1LJrjKU5BtF2tc8kogsoE3K1e9fdxD6_w%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
