Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-26 Thread Tom Fennelly
I added a v1 of this to the wiki at https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Browser+Compatibility+Matrix Of course, feel free to make comments and edits :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Jenkins Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-26 Thread Baptiste Mathus
Great, thanks Tom. I just reworked the page a bit into a table to help make the information more quickly findable by readers. Hope this suits you and others. 2014-08-26 15:06 GMT+02:00 Tom Fennelly tom.fenne...@gmail.com: I added a v1 of this to the wiki at

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-26 Thread Daniel Beck
On 26.08.2014, at 15:06, Tom Fennelly tom.fenne...@gmail.com wrote: I added a v1 of this to the wiki at https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Browser+Compatibility+Matrix Of course, feel free to make comments and edits :) Any particular reason you list Firefox ESR as L2? -- You

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-26 Thread Tom Fennelly
That's great, thanks Baptiste. On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 2:26:18 PM UTC+1, Baptiste Mathus wrote: Great, thanks Tom. I just reworked the page a bit into a table to help make the information more quickly findable by readers. Hope this suits you and others. 2014-08-26 15:06 GMT+02:00 Tom

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-26 Thread Tom Fennelly
Good question... no reason other than being hasty. I'll update it and make it L1. In fact... is there a need to mention it specifically? On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:14:05 PM UTC+1, Daniel Beck wrote: On 26.08.2014, at 15:06, Tom Fennelly tom.fe...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-26 Thread Daniel Beck
On 26.08.2014, at 19:39, Tom Fennelly tom.fenne...@gmail.com wrote: Good question... no reason other than being hasty. I'll update it and make it L1. In fact... is there a need to mention it specifically? Well, it's outdated by ~3 months on average compared to the latest, so telling

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-09 Thread Daniel Beck
On 07.08.2014, at 22:36, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think what we are after is 3 tiers: - first class UX (we should aim to proactively fix these browsers and provide an equal UX across all) - UI testing failures here are considered major UI bugs - best

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-09 Thread Tom Fennelly
Right, I think this is a good approach + the caveats Daniel suggests. I think the policy around accepting patches should be along the lines of the level of guarantee we plan to offer e.g. for no guarantee on support we also offer no guarantee re accepting patches i.e. if we can reasonably

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-07 Thread Jesse Glick
It would be best to try to degrade gracefully on older or less functional browsers. If the page looks ugly, fine. If some JavaScript tricks do not work, fine, so long as there is some other way to accomplish the same task. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Thursday, 7 August 2014, Jesse Glick jgl...@cloudbees.com wrote: It would be best to try to degrade gracefully on older or less functional browsers. If the page looks ugly, fine. If some JavaScript tricks do not work, fine, so long as there is some other way to accomplish the same task.

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-07 Thread Marky Jackson
From a tools perspective I have always found browserling to be very useful. Free and open source On Aug 7, 2014 1:36 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, 7 August 2014, Jesse Glick jgl...@cloudbees.com wrote: It would be best to try to degrade gracefully

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Fennelly
Hi Emeric. Thanks for the response. +1 to everything you said there. On Friday, August 1, 2014 9:37:54 AM UTC+1, evernat wrote: Hi Tom, In my opinion, we should not try to support IE8 in UI refresh, because it would be foolish for a user to still use IE8 even on WinXP. Perhaps some

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-05 Thread Oleg Nenashev
+1 The browser support matrix would be great. In addition to IE, it will allow to limit the fun with custom browsers. Firefox, Chrome, Safari and IE would be enough. Unfortunately, many plugins have their own browser compatibility issues (especially with IE11). It could be useful to somehow

Re: Should we come up with a browser support matrix?

2014-08-01 Thread evernat
Hi Tom, In my opinion, we should not try to support IE8 in UI refresh, because it would be foolish for a user to still use IE8 even on WinXP. Perhaps some slow companies still pretend that IE8 is their mandatory browser [1] (and never respect that themselves). But in my opinion, your UI