RE: changing the view in outlook 2010
When you uncheck, you're using the Office ribbon, instead of the virtual ribbon. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 6:15 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Les Kriegler Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over
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And the best part is JAWS help for Office 2007 has a really good short course on using the ribbon. I haven't checked to see if it's duplicated for later versions of office, but 2007 was the ribbon's initial debut. Ted -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS ribbon, we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means we can share info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online solutions when we encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems regularly, but the answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the virtual ribbon. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Les Kriegler Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but for now, I won't be using that feature. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where I am? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make
RE: changing the view in outlook 2010
Lile, I think if the help tutorial wasn't updated, it will be present in later versions of Jaws. I will probably go and revisit that tutorial again, as it's been a couple of years since I listened to it. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:52 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) ted.li...@ky.gov Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 And the best part is JAWS help for Office 2007 has a really good short course on using the ribbon. I haven't checked to see if it's duplicated for later versions of office, but 2007 was the ribbon's initial debut. Ted -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS ribbon, we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means we can share info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online solutions when we encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems regularly, but the answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the virtual ribbon. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Les Kriegler Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but for now, I won't be using that feature. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where I am? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know
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Hello Carolyn, To turn the virtual ribbon on or off; 1. Press insert F 2, 2. Press S approximately 3 times until you hear Settings Center, 3. Press enter, 4. Type ribbon in the edit field that comes up, and down arrow to select it, 5. You will probably be prompted to use the default, and instructed to press control, shift, D; do so, 6. press space bar to choose use virtual ribbon, or not, 7. Tab once for instructions or twice to the okay button to implement your selection. Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: August-10-15 5:52 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Is there a way to get the traditional ribbon or whatever in 2013 and not have this upper and lower ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS ribbon, we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means we can share info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online solutions when we encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems regularly, but the answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the virtual ribbon. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Les Kriegler Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but for now, I won't be using that feature. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where I am? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view
RE: changing the view in outlook 2010
First letter navigation does work in the virtual ribbon. I don't mean the Office shortcuts; I mean true first letter navigation. If there is more than one item starting with the same letter, you will have to press enter on the one you want. The only thing I like about virtual ribbons is the fact that it is very easy to see the groups because they show in submenus. I teach students, and I always show them both ways to navigate the ribbons and lay out the pros and cons of both very clearly so that they can make their own informed decision. I'm all about choice when it comes to computers. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view
RE: changing the view in outlook 2010
Is there a way to get the traditional ribbon or whatever in 2013 and not have this upper and lower ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS ribbon, we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means we can share info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online solutions when we encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems regularly, but the answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the virtual ribbon. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Les Kriegler Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but for now, I won't be using that feature. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where I am? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed
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I'm not contributing much, but I lasted a day with the virtual ribbons... You see folks, I didn't get serious with computers and I came in right when the ribbons popped up. When I ended up using a comp that didn't have ribbons, I went bonkers. Well, not literally, I mean I didn't shout obscenities and stomp, but yall get my point. I took great advantage of the quick access toolbar and only assigned what I used frequently, now, as it is late, I completely forgot what the original question was, so I will stop here as I am just typing... Ribbons are here to stay, out with the old, in with the new... -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS ribbon, we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means we can share info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online solutions when we encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems regularly, but the answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the virtual ribbon. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Les Kriegler Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but for now, I won't be using that feature. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where I am? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les
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now, why doesn't fs realize this? On 8/9/2015 10:52 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote: There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS ribbon, we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means we can share info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online solutions when we encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems regularly, but the answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the virtual ribbon. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Les Kriegler Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but for now, I won't be using that feature. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where I am? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re
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Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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I have the same problem with the Alt-V, C, V. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:07 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ 201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Hello Les, I presume you mean unchecking the use of the virtual ribbon. Some people prefer to use the virtual ribbon and keyboard around through the various sections of the ribbons viewing all of the available options. The virtual ribbon is quite useful when one is first acquainting themselves with the features on the ribbon, and Jaws is announcing the keystrokes for the various features as well. But once one is familiar with what is there, and has memorized the keystrokes for what they want done, it is simpler and quicker to use the keystroke rather than arrowing and tabbing all over the place, Short term pain for long term gain. It is one's personal preference Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 3:15 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf
Re: changing the view in outlook 2010
To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ 201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32
RE: changing the view in outlook 2010
Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard shortcuts? Thank, Keith -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next
Re: changing the view in outlook 2010
My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ 201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman
Re: changing the view in outlook 2010
Hi, Keith. There is also a very good pdf document with all Outlook2010 keyboard shortcuts. On Google, Look up the following: Outlook2010 from the keyboard, pdf, Karlen If you put those terms into the Google search box exactly as typed, you will get a page with a pdf document which gives all shortcuts for Outlook2010. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:23 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Office 2010 laptop (if that matters). Thanks. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Which Keyboard shortcuts are you looking for? Office 2007, Office 2010, or what? Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:32 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard shortcuts? Thank, Keith -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press
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Try this link, Keith. https://help.rnib.org.uk/help/daily-living/technology/shortcuts-office Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:23 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Office 2010 laptop (if that matters). Thanks. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Which Keyboard shortcuts are you looking for? Office 2007, Office 2010, or what? Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:32 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard shortcuts? Thank, Keith -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August
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Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc
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Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ 201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
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Office 2010 laptop (if that matters). Thanks. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Which Keyboard shortcuts are you looking for? Office 2007, Office 2010, or what? Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:32 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard shortcuts? Thank, Keith -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin
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Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ 201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Agreed. But that is our preference. I worry that sometimes on this list, as well as at FS tech support, suggestions are made to change or remove this or that setting without alerting users to potential side-effects that we might overlook in the moment. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:02 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also
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Which Keyboard shortcuts are you looking for? Office 2007, Office 2010, or what? Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:32 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard shortcuts? Thank, Keith -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need
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There is a Santa Claus!!! And, in August, too! Many, many, many thanks. Keith -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:52 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Keith. There is also a very good pdf document with all Outlook2010 keyboard shortcuts. On Google, Look up the following: Outlook2010 from the keyboard, pdf, Karlen If you put those terms into the Google search box exactly as typed, you will get a page with a pdf document which gives all shortcuts for Outlook2010. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:23 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Office 2010 laptop (if that matters). Thanks. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Which Keyboard shortcuts are you looking for? Office 2007, Office 2010, or what? Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:32 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard shortcuts? Thank, Keith -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
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Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday
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If you are using the virtual ribbon, you can press alt, left or right arrow to view, and then tab around until you come across the current view. Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 11:30 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ 201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: changing the view in outlook 2010
Oh, I can see that once I knew the keystrokes, that would be way better. I have some written from 2010 and think they will probably work on 2013. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:03 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kevin Hourigan kevinthouri...@gmail.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Les, I presume you mean unchecking the use of the virtual ribbon. Some people prefer to use the virtual ribbon and keyboard around through the various sections of the ribbons viewing all of the available options. The virtual ribbon is quite useful when one is first acquainting themselves with the features on the ribbon, and Jaws is announcing the keystrokes for the various features as well. But once one is familiar with what is there, and has memorized the keystrokes for what they want done, it is simpler and quicker to use the keystroke rather than arrowing and tabbing all over the place, Short term pain for long term gain. It is one's personal preference Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 3:15 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent
RE: changing the view in outlook 2010
I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but for now, I won't be using that feature. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where I am? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you
RE: changing the view in outlook 2010
So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where I am? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem
RE: changing the view in outlook 2010
Hello Carolyn, Initially you arrow and tab around until you find what you want, but as you do Jaws is announcing the keystrokes for the particular items. Then when you want to go there the next time you just press the keystroke. You can press alt to go to the upper ribbon, arrow left or right to go to the view menu, and tab until you come to the current view dialog, or you can press alt, V, C, V. Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 4:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only
RE: changing the view in outlook 2010
Thanks. That is what I've been doing, seems maybe a little slow, a little clumsy, but probably the more I do it, the more I'll get used to it. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:44 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kevin Hourigan kevinthouri...@gmail.com Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 If you are using the virtual ribbon, you can press alt, left or right arrow to view, and then tab around until you come across the current view. Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 11:30 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says blank. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ 201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
Re: changing contacts view in outlook 2010
Drew, I think it would be in the view area, and change the current view to something other than card view. I prefer the Detailed address card view myself. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer - Original Message - From: Drew Hunthausen via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: Jaws list jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 02:03 PM Subject: changing contacts view in outlook 2010 Dear list, Can someone please help me in how to change the contacts view in outlook 2010? It's in card view right now and I want to change it to list view. Thanks for any help. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20141215/fb873c95/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
