Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol Applet and DX files

2008-11-10 Thread lsprilus
According to "Robert Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > simple typo. Will be corrected in next versions of 11.6 and 11.7 -- need > this sooner? Bob, There's no need to hurry. We can keep testing and developing on older Jmol versions until the new comes out. Thanks again, Jaim -- Dr Jaime Prilusky

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol Applet and DX files

2008-11-10 Thread lsprilus
According to "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Angel_Herr=E1ez?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've done some test, and this looks like a bug. > My DX file loads Ok in 11.2.14, 11.4.6, 11.5.6, but not in 11.6.4 Angel, Thanks for a prompt reply. Jaim -- Dr Jaime Prilusky | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Head of

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol Applet and DX files

2008-11-10 Thread Robert Hanson
simple typo. Will be corrected in next versions of 11.6 and 11.7 -- need this sooner? On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Robert Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I'll look at that tonight. > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Angel Herráez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> On 10 Nov 2008 at 15

Re: [Jmol-users] MEP isosurface coloring

2008-11-10 Thread Robert Hanson
Are you sure you're just not setting the range to your liking? On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Frieda Reichsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any chance this would be a realistic feature request? For secondary school > teaching purposes we use the simpler, bwr color scheme that students are > alr

Re: [Jmol-users] MEP isosurface coloring

2008-11-10 Thread Frieda Reichsman
Any chance this would be a realistic feature request? For secondary school teaching purposes we use the simpler, bwr color scheme that students are already familiar with. It can be difficult for some students to have to shift gears to another scheme. And showing areas that are hydrophobic i

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-10 Thread Robert Hanson
ah -- ok, I see. Well, that sounds terrific. I'd be interested just in peeking at the C code, then, in that case. Just to see what sort of considerations you made. Who knows. It might be an almost trivial addition to Jmol. Bob On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:36 AM, David Leader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wro

Re: [Jmol-users] MLP and Lipophility

2008-11-10 Thread Robert Hanson
no, sorry. I'd love to know what Chime was calculating; I'm guessing it was pretty minimal processing and not something that was truly realistic. But I could be wrong. That's the problem with a proprietary code such as Chime -- you never know if what you see really means anything. Bob Hanson On M

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol Applet and DX files

2008-11-10 Thread Robert Hanson
OK, I'll look at that tonight. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Angel Herráez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10 Nov 2008 at 15:42, Robert Hanson wrote: > > > > > I'll need a sample file > > The dx is 11 MB. I've packed it together with the original pdb file in > http://biomodel.uah.es/angel/liso

Re: [Jmol-users] MEP isosurface coloring

2008-11-10 Thread Robert Hanson
no, I don't think so. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Frieda Reichsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bob, > > Is there a mechanism, with the rwb or bwr colorshemes, for widening > the white areas between the red and blue? Many published EP surfaces > show large neutral regions; I have not figu

[Jmol-users] MEP isosurface coloring

2008-11-10 Thread Frieda Reichsman
Hi Bob, Is there a mechanism, with the rwb or bwr colorshemes, for widening the white areas between the red and blue? Many published EP surfaces show large neutral regions; I have not figured out how to get Jmol to do this in rwb. These regions are green in the more extended color set. Than

Re: [Jmol-users] read efvet files for surface potential?

2008-11-10 Thread Frieda Reichsman
OK, I will see about contacting them. On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: OK, those files contain basically the same information as an isosurface -- vertex list, vertex color, vertex value (several!), and triangles list. That's all you need to do just about anything in Jmol w

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol Applet and DX files

2008-11-10 Thread Angel Herráez
On 10 Nov 2008 at 15:42, Robert Hanson wrote: > > I'll need a sample file The dx is 11 MB. I've packed it together with the original pdb file in http://biomodel.uah.es/angel/lisozima.zip - This SF.Net email is sponsored b

[Jmol-users] MLP and Lipophility

2008-11-10 Thread Jeff
I know this was brought up many months ago From what I could gather from a search of the archives is that this is apparently hard to do. In Chime, it is nice to show those small molecules and compare their water solubility. It was not clear if anyone had taken on the task. Has anyone worked on

Re: [Jmol-users] read efvet files for surface potential?

2008-11-10 Thread Robert Hanson
OK, those files contain basically the same information as an isosurface -- vertex list, vertex color, vertex value (several!), and triangles list. That's all you need to do just about anything in Jmol with a surface. Can't create a JVXL file. But if this data really is isosurface data, then it migh

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol Applet and DX files

2008-11-10 Thread Robert Hanson
I'll need a sample file On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Angel Herráez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jaime > > Have you checked > http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/File_formats#Open_DX > ? > There is some info and 3 links there > > > I've done some test, and this looks like a bug. > > My DX fi

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol Applet and DX files

2008-11-10 Thread Angel Herráez
Hi Jaime Have you checked http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/File_formats#Open_DX ? There is some info and 3 links there I've done some test, and this looks like a bug. My DX file loads Ok in 11.2.14, 11.4.6, 11.5.6, but not in 11.6.4 After load "lisozima.pdb"; isosurface "lisozima.pqr.potent

[Jmol-users] Jmol Applet and DX files

2008-11-10 Thread lsprilus
Hi, Do you have an example on how to load/display data from a .dxf (DX) file on Jmol 11.5.51 ? This is what I have (and it's not working) jmolInitialize('/wiki/extensions/Jmol'); jmolApplet(400, 'isoSurface file "/wiki/support/g_slide1.dx"'); Java Console reports: data file type was de

Re: [Jmol-users] read efvet files for surface potential?

2008-11-10 Thread Frieda Reichsman
I am sending the efvet file under separate cover as it is 2.4 MB. (Apparently it is in xml format, whereas I had thought that efvet referred to the format) It is from a single protein chain of the pdb file 1LMB (efvet files also can contain information for multiple chains). Here is what the

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-10 Thread David Leader
Bob wrote: It might be interesting to see how the HBplus program works. I see http://www.csb.yale.edu/userguides/datamanip/hbplus/algorithm.txt but that suggests there is no energy calculation here, just a set of angle/distance rules. HOWEVER -- NOTE!!! The HBPlus program itself is not public

[Jmol-users] chemapps.stolaf.edu unavailable today

2008-11-10 Thread Robert Hanson
we had a machine failure on chemapps.stolaf.edu -- that site is temporarily unavailable. -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it

Re: [Jmol-users] read efvet files for surface potential?

2008-11-10 Thread Robert Hanson
Sounds very interesting. What's more, Jmol could display the data as JVXL files possibly and compress the data immensely. Do you have some of these files, Frieda? On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Frieda Reichsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bob, > > eF-site ( http://ef-site.hgc.jp/eF-site/ )

[Jmol-users] read efvet files for surface potential?

2008-11-10 Thread Frieda Reichsman
Hi Bob, eF-site ( http://ef-site.hgc.jp/eF-site/ ) is a database for molecular surfaces, coloring by electrostatic potential. Seems like the entire contents of the pdb is available - a great resource. The MEP data can be obtained in an "efvet" file, described here: http://ef-site.hgc.jp/eF-s