Re: [Jmol-users] Viewer.scriptWait(zoom 400;) hangs in 11.3.64

2007-12-26 Thread Robert Hanson
I will look at this, but I certainly have not observed it to date. I assume you are doing this from an application that has Jmol embedded in it? Are you sure you are starting a new thread and not using the main execution thread when executing viewer.scriptWait? This is necessary. On Tue, 25 Dec

Re: [Jmol-users] Insertion code display problem in jmol-11.2.14

2007-12-26 Thread Robert Hanson
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:20:05 -0500, Golagani, Ravi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm using the latest release jmol-11.2.14 (applet) in our project. When an atom consists PDB Insertion code as '100A' it shows it with some illegal character in tooltip. I'm passing the correct Insertion code

Re: [Jmol-users] Small buglet in saving graphics state (Jmol 11.4)

2008-01-04 Thread Robert Hanson
thank you - please enter as an official request for a bug fix. Perhaps Egon can find that code in SelectionManager.java and fix it for us. On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 15:50:11 +, Brian McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello If one invokes the Jmol console (at least in 11.4RC1) and clicks the

Re: [Jmol-users] minimum Jmol download

2008-01-04 Thread Robert Hanson
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 21:02:59 -0500, Frieda Reichsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, two part question: 1, Which component files of Jmol will download when a page has an applet displaying one structure (DNA only), in wireframe only, with NO buttons or other controls? (Assuming I am using the

Re: [Jmol-users] something broken in Jmol states (?)

2008-01-04 Thread Robert Hanson
looks like a missing semicolon after color selectionHalos none If you can fix that manually for now, that will make it work. [[Egon, can you fix this? It's in org/jmol/shapes/Halos.Java 62 public String getShapeState() { 63 return super.getShapeState() 64 + (colixSelection

Re: [Jmol-users] polyhedra bonds opaque broken

2008-01-04 Thread Robert Hanson
please enter as a request for a bug fix; in the mean time, please use color polyhedra opaque :) On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:05:49 +0100, Paul Pillot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy new year to all Jmolers ! I think there is something broken in respect with polyhedra translucency : polyhedra bonds

Re: [Jmol-users] Testing 11.6.RC8

2008-08-19 Thread Robert Hanson
Thanks, Rolf. Yes, that's a bug introduced recently. It's the capital letters. That's checked in for 11.6.RC9. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I tested Jmol 11.6.RC8 with our 'JenaLib Jmol Viewer' and noticed the following problem: Problem

Re: [Jmol-users] Testing 11.6.RC8

2008-08-20 Thread Robert Hanson
fixed and, sure, why not... getProperty pointGroupInfo print getProperty(pointgroupInfo.principalAxis) etc. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Dean Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Bob, write pointgroup draw gives the following error (for 11.6.RC8): Exception in thread QueueThread0

Re: [Jmol-users] getting info from Jmol applet

2008-08-20 Thread Robert Hanson
Jeff, The mistake here is timing. You cannot query an applet while the page is loading (prior to /body and completion of applet initialization). In some cases this crashes browsers; in others it just causes an error; in others it permanently disables the applet communication. The simple fix is

Re: [Jmol-users] a related popup window question....

2008-08-20 Thread Robert Hanson
ever? even if you don't manipulate the model? Please check for Java console errors. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It's odd that the question about syncing with pop-up applet windows came up today just as I noticed the following: with the applet

Re: [Jmol-users] a related popup window question....

2008-08-20 Thread Robert Hanson
: Java heap space at org.jmol.g3d.Platform3D.allocateTBuffers(Platform3D.java:89) I see this behavior on both both WinXP and linux (CentOS) and both a pretty hefty machines (graphics and RAM-wise) -Tom On 8/20/08, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ever? even if you don't

Re: [Jmol-users] Sync to separate window?

2008-08-20 Thread Robert Hanson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear Bob, In Proteopedia.Org, Jaim Prilusky has implemented a popup button under each Jmol that opens a new window containing only a Jmol. This window can be made large and resized at will; resizing has been more

Re: [Jmol-users] Testing 11.6.RC8

2008-08-22 Thread Robert Hanson
, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fixed and, sure, why not... getProperty pointGroupInfo print getProperty(pointgroupInfo.principalAxis) etc. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Dean Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Bob, write pointgroup draw gives the following error (for 11.6.RC8

Re: [Jmol-users] testing needed (point groups)

2008-08-22 Thread Robert Hanson
thanks -- RC9 is broken for pointgroups. (It can crash jmol when drawing) On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Xavier Prat-Resina [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Bob, I finally had time to test the point groups in jmol. I used a set of structures included in Patchkovskii's code. They are not real

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol-users Digest, Vol 27, Issue 24

2008-08-22 Thread Robert Hanson
University 602 S. College Ave. Greencastle, IN 46135 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** On Aug 20, 2008, at 3:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message: 4 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:42:00 -0500 From: Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] getting info

Re: [Jmol-users] a related popup window question....

2008-08-22 Thread Robert Hanson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's your answer. Out of memory. How big are these resizes? height/width? I wonder if a settable maximumWindowSize option might be in order here. Bob On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Jmol-users] script in string

2008-08-22 Thread Robert Hanson
I guess I don't understand the context here. What is the addJmol command? Why is it being created as a script tag and not just as script addJmol() // whatever that may be /script Bob On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Matthew Zwier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's in the HTML page itself,

Re: [Jmol-users] set picking spin

2008-08-22 Thread Robert Hanson
That's fixed. Thanks. Also, now you can still make double-click measurements while you have set picking spin The double click will stop any current spinning that might be happening. Bob On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:21 PM, rspinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Set picking SPIN seems to be

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol and MediaWiki Problem (jmolinitialize)

2008-08-22 Thread Robert Hanson
Steve, right -- it's simply a matter of the wiki not finding the path to Jmol.js. Nico or Angel can help you get that going. Bob Hanson On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Stephen Weppner [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I have installed the JMol Mediawiki extension found at:

Re: [Jmol-users] unexpected image scaling

2008-08-26 Thread Robert Hanson
I cannot reproduce this problem. Are you sure you have not already defined mybackground PRIOR to the set fontscaling false command? set fontscaling only affects echos created after its invocation. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Interesting. I have

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol-users Digest, getting data from Jmol

2008-08-26 Thread Robert Hanson
for the code to do this, just another pointer in the right direction to move me in the right direction. Sorry if I'm too much of a bother. Robert Hanson Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:22:24 -0700 oh, yes! You can do all that. Check the Jmol wiki for lots of tips. Commands include jmolEvaluate (my favorite

Re: [Jmol-users] unexpected image scaling

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Hanson
; set echo depth 0; set echo mybackground 43% 83%; set echo mybackground image star2.gif; I am still using the applet of version 11.6RC7 -- perhaps I should download and test whatever the most current RC version is today. -Tom On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL

Re: [Jmol-users] changing atom coordinates with {selected}.y

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Hanson
thanks for finding that, Angel. It's fixed for 11.6.RC11. Those files should be available as http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/Jmol-11_5.zip shortly Bob On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all I had this script for getting a

Re: [Jmol-users] Drawing individual symmetry elements

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Hanson
It's a bug I need to fix. Don't go back to RC9 -- that's broken for drawing pointgroups the second time. It's a problem with the caching I added in RC10. Jmol doesn't recalculate the point group or the draw set if it finds suitable ones already present. But I forgot to check for that axis number.

Re: [Jmol-users] Testing 11.6.RC8

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Hanson
be a point group specific thing, because a lower symmetry (C2) version of my twistane structure works just fine. BTW, I love the getProperty pointGroupInfo. Thanks Bob! Dean On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: found it -- Nico, let's get RC10 out so Dean can

Re: [Jmol-users] problem in firefox

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Hanson
Right -- name attribute is quite problematical. In some browsers id is accessible as name, but that's not acceptable. And in some browser versions the name of an element in a form is under the form name rather than the document. Always use id and, as Dean points out, then access it only using

Re: [Jmol-users] Echo with sub and sup tags

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Hanson
that's what I needed. Fixed. Vertical was off as well. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 27 Aug 2008 at 10:57, Dean Johnston wrote: OK, here is the state for ammonia, with a label of Point Group = Csub3v/sub at the bottom left. Without the tags the

Re: [Jmol-users] unexpected image scaling

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Hanson
echo depth 0; set echo mybackground 43% 83%; set echo mybackground image star2.gif; I am still using the applet of version 11.6RC7 -- perhaps I should download and test whatever the most current RC version is today. -Tom On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL

Re: [Jmol-users] problem in firefox

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Hanson
I'm working towards my own at this point and I'm afraid looking at yours will just prevent my learning how to do it myself. Shame! NEVER say that! The way to learn this is by adapting anything you can find. That's the great thing about JavaScript. Learn how these code fragments work by testing

Re: [Jmol-users] Hack to deal with Firefox 3 new behaviour regarding Files Input

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Hanson
yes, thanks, Paul, that's right. It's an interesting compromise. I had to abandon the type=file in Jmol Protein Explorer for FireFox3 because of that. If you can't get the actual path to the file, which I think is actually a good security feature, you can't later reproduce the state, unless you

Re: [Jmol-users] problem in firefox

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Hanson
. College Ave. Greencastle, IN 46135 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** On Aug 27, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: I'm working towards my own at this point and I'm afraid looking at yours will just prevent my learning how to do it myself. Shame! NEVER

Re: [Jmol-users] Testing 11.6.RC8

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Hanson
problem. Dean On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dean, that fix is checked in -- problem for any case where there is no principal axis. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Dean Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: OK, it's working much better, but a few obscure

Re: [Jmol-users] problem in firefox

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Hanson
remove the \ around the load command. It's just: this.loadString = load ../Jmol/jmol/Models/ + molecule; On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Jeff Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your help Angel. This is getting me very nearly there. To recap. I am trying to create a web

Re: [Jmol-users] Branch within problem persists

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Hanson
Steven, You have the quotes there still. The word branch cannot be in quotes. Check the documentation. There are several entities atoms might be within, including element chain group structure branch molecule model boundbox Quotes are used to indicate a sequence, such as RGGGAA, not one of

Re: [Jmol-users] problem in firefox

2008-08-28 Thread Robert Hanson
Jeff, why don't you come over to St. Olaf and I'll show you how this works! :) Seriously, hang in there. You are trying to do a lot all at once, and you will catch on. This is precisely what this list is for. Just keep at it. jmolScriptWait would not break anything. jmolScriptWait should only be

Re: [Jmol-users] Branch within problem persists

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Hanson
Well, I don't know... Please send the file for which this is a problem and also the state script from show state just prior to giving that command. Here's what I see using the application: load =1crn select within(branch,{4.N},{4.ca}) 326 atoms selected Are you using the application or the

Re: [Jmol-users] problem in firefox

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Hanson
] *** On Aug 28, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: Jeff, why don't you come over to St. Olaf and I'll show you how this works! :) Seriously, hang in there. You are trying to do a lot all at once, and you will catch on. This is precisely what this list is for. Just keep at it. jmolScriptWait would

Re: [Jmol-users] a related popup window question....

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Hanson
I've gone ahead and added for Jmol 11.6.RC12 the applet param tag maximumSize. This can be set to a maximum size for which the height and width are not allowed to exceed when resizing. I think this will be a more user-friendly option. The way to invoke it would be jmolInitialize(...)

Re: [Jmol-users] autobond and bond tolerance

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Hanson
1. What are the default values and typical values for: bondTolerance public final static float DEFAULT_BOND_TOLERANCE = 0.45f; minBondDistance //minimum acceptable bonding distance ... from OpenBabel ... mth 2003 05 26 public final static float DEFAULT_MIN_BOND_DISTANCE = 0.4f; All

[Jmol-users] proposed change to Jmol.js

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Hanson
I'd like to propose a change to Jmol.js. The change would be an addition. If the page URL contains JMOLJAR= then Jmol.js would be instructed to ignore the jmolInitialize() command and instead use the codebase directory and jar file as defined after that tag. For example:

Re: [Jmol-users] loading external files in the signed applet

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Hanson
Paul, check out this page to see how yours might be different. http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/simple.htm It's using the signed applet and working just fine. Maybe has to be newer than 11.6.RC8, but I don't think so. It should load files from the PDB using load = and files

Re: [Jmol-users] proposed change to Jmol.js

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Hanson
I'm working with them -- they are mostly waiting for 11.6 to be stable. Then they will go to that. Bob On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the interesting aspects is that I could use JMOLJAR=

Re: [Jmol-users] proposed change to Jmol.js

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Hanson
RCSB beta site is using Jmol 11.4. See for example: http://betastaging.rcsb.org/pdb/static.do?p=explorer/viewers/jmol.jsp?structureId=1O1I Current version there is 11.4.6, I think. On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working with them

Re: [Jmol-users] proposed change to Jmol.js

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Hanson
: Quoting Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One of the interesting aspects is that I could use JMOLJAR= http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/JmolAppletSigned.jar for example to go to the PDB website and use MY applet instead of theirs. Bob, have you tried that already

Re: [Jmol-users] New feature inquiry

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Hanson
Steve, there's probably not much sense in creating a generic bond-equivalent object like that. But you can do what you say yourself. For example, if a student is asked to click on a peptide bond, you know what bond it is, so you can create the link yourself and, like you say, make them transparent

Re: [Jmol-users] New feature inquiry

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Hanson
is the bond order; next are the identities of the two atoms and the bond distance. The last three numbers are the coordinates of the center of the bond. That work for you, Steve? Bob On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, there's probably not much sense

Re: [Jmol-users] New feature inquiry

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Hanson
all three are independent: set atomPicking set bondPicking set drawPicking On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Aug 2008 at 14:20, Robert Hanson wrote: Jmol 11.6.RC12 now has set atomPicking [default TRUE] set bondPicking [default FALSE

Re: [Jmol-users] The results of your email commands

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Hanson
Yes, this information comes back as a string in the pickCallback (second parameter). The third parameter is an atom index: 0+ atom -2 draw -3 bond Also, you can always check the most recent pick information using var x = jmolEvaluate(_pickInfo) or var x = jmolEvaluate(_atomPicked) You

Re: [Jmol-users] Bond picking -- and getProperty in general

2008-08-30 Thread Robert Hanson
getProperty can be a very inefficient function. The algorithm is designed to return the entire property set, then do the selections. So, for example, if you say: print getProperty(atomInfo[3]) and there are 3 atoms, then first a vector containing 3 elements is produced and only after

Re: [Jmol-users] loading external files in the signed applet

2008-08-31 Thread Robert Hanson
. On the contrary jmolScriptWaitAsArray() gives me access denial errors... Paul Le 30 août 08 à 15:07, Robert Hanson a écrit : Paul, check out this page to see how yours might be different. http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/simple.htm It's using the signed applet and working just fine

Re: [Jmol-users] proposed change to Jmol.js

2008-08-31 Thread Robert Hanson
PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ok. Shucks. That's convincing. OK if it allows same-server jar changes? Yes, I think so. If the server is compromised then I guess it won't make much difference anyhow. Regards, Rolf

Re: [Jmol-users] Bond picking -- and getProperty in general

2008-08-31 Thread Robert Hanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** On Aug 30, 2008, at 11:45 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: getProperty can be a very inefficient function. The algorithm is designed to return the entire property set, then do the selections. So, for example, if you say: print

Re: [Jmol-users] proposed change to Jmol.js

2008-09-01 Thread Robert Hanson
OK. Others have comments on this? Bob On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Hanson wrote: One more thought on this: What about an option that allows the replacement of the Jar file but first prompts the user for an OK (using JavaScript prompt

Re: [Jmol-users] bug with echo?

2008-09-03 Thread Robert Hanson
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:25 PM, rspinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure if these are bugs are not, but I have a couple of problems with the echo command. First is set echo myecho hidden does not work, set echo hidden does, i.e. it does not like the echo name being used. Does seem

Re: [Jmol-users] bug with echo?

2008-09-03 Thread Robert Hanson
I consider the fact that hide $my* does not extend to ECHO to be a bug. Jmol 11.6.RC13 will have hide/display/color/delete $*xxx* implemented for ECHO Bob On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:25 PM, rspinney [EMAIL

Re: [Jmol-users] New browser Chrome from Google

2008-09-04 Thread Robert Hanson
It's saying LiveConnect is not working. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Well, this reply to Henry's posts has become long, so I'm splitting it into this Chrome- related part and another Java 6u10 post) So I've just installed the new Java 6u10RC

Re: [Jmol-users] beyond a limitation of JMOL: TiBS article on publication-integrated 3D models in PDFs

2008-09-04 Thread Robert Hanson
fascinating. So one would simply need to write a U3D file format exporter. Very good project for someone. But of course, one would lose much of the richness of the Jmol experience. Still On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Wayne Decatur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought people might be

Re: [Jmol-users] Problems with echo images image buttons

2008-09-05 Thread Robert Hanson
definitely needs fixing. (1) antialiasdisplay is doubling the image size. (2) vertical centering is not quite right, I think. Bob On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, Bob, This does not have to work in 11.6 (final release). On April 13, 2007, you

Re: [Jmol-users] Getting a complete history/historyLevel

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
set historylevel 2 works fine for me. It should work as you expected. But history was recording full scripts, not individual commands, so commands were out of order. This might have thrown you off. That's corrected now. On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It

Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
better to fix that. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It appears to me that the javascript command of Jmol does not work in Safari on Mac OS X. Examples, typed into the Jmol console: javascript alert(hi) or javascript alert(document.location.href) These

Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
sorry - missed some of those messages. OK, I'll assume the javascript command is working ok. As for pause -- that would be a threading issue. But pause is working fine for me on Mac OS-X. Bob On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: better to fix that. On Fri

Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
yes, that's a far better solution anyway. The javascript command cannot be used with the signed applet in any command that also accesses files -- script, load, echo IMAGE. I had to do something like that in Jmol Protein Explorer as well. You have to be very careful with more complex scripts that

Re: [Jmol-users] Problems with echo images image buttons

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
Eric, That script is way too complex for me to reproduce here, but I did fix the echo alignment. There were a couple of bugs there, particularly with the y-offset of centered echos. All should be fixed. I'll see if we can get RC13 out this weekend so you can check it. Anything else you are

Re: [Jmol-users] cgi and Jmol

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
Dear Avenha, there is absolutely nothing special about cgi output. Hard to say what you mean by a Jmol java script inside an HTML document. pasted the code to what? Can you send an example or point us to a page? The main thing is to have Jmol.js in the right place and have Jar and model files

Re: [Jmol-users] Dynamic base64 decoding

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
I don't think you can put that many bytes on a URL line. Better would be to put the base64 data into a textarea in a form and submit it using method=post. Even that might have some limitations. Bob On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, Aha, jmolScriptwait ?

Re: [Jmol-users] echo vs. hover?

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
Eric, No, it just means they are related. That's all. Nico has released 11.6.RC13, so please check out my bug fixes. Thanks, Nico! Bob On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: In the documentation, the sections on echo and set echo say See also: hover. At the

Re: [Jmol-users] Dynamic base64 decoding -- legible

2008-09-07 Thread Robert Hanson
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Steven R. Spilatro [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Could the issue be the size of the jmol-derived image? Yes, I'm pretty sure that's it. The way to test, of course, is to use the same base64 info from Jmol in an img data: - aware browser. There's a link under the

Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-07 Thread Robert Hanson
then for that I'm not aware of any threading issues. But in general, be careful that you are not cycling one thread around and around JavaScript--Jmol--JavaScript--Jmol--... That could be a potential problem. It's good to do some setTimeout() calls just to get a new thread periodically. Otherwise

Re: [Jmol-users] Placing Jmol image in same web page

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Hanson
works for me -- once I figured out I needed to click a radio button. A default there would be nice. Most impressive is that by using a base tag and my own signed applet I can even make it work in MSIE from a version saved to my hard drive. Good job! Bob On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Steven

Re: [Jmol-users] Dynamic base64 decoding

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Hanson
Well, if you want, give it a try. You will have to use the latest version of Jmol -- http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/JmolApplet.jar Just issue var x = jmolGetPropertyAsJavaObject(image) That AsJavaObject ensures that the image created is returned as a byte array -- the actual

Re: [Jmol-users] Intermittent loading error

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Hanson
Any chance these are pages that involve more than one applet? In any case, it's some sort of caching problem with that browser version. You might get around it by adding a random search to the URL: test/advanced/ReO3.cif?23023789234 where that number changes each time so that it forces an

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol Tutorial-Authoring Template Released

2008-09-10 Thread Robert Hanson
http://www.umass.edu/molvis/bme3d/materials/jmoltuts/antibody/contents/contents.htm Jmol Version 11.3.13 2007-08-28 16:07 really? Bob On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: At long last, I have completed a version of the Jmol Tutorial-Authoring Template (JTAT)

Re: [Jmol-users] identifying proteins in mol2 files

2008-09-10 Thread Robert Hanson
no. not that I know of. Only PDB and CIF support for that. Is there some sort of MOL2 designation that would suggest otherwise? On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Reichsman Frieda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob et al., If a mol2 file is correctly formated, should Jmol be able to recognize

Re: [Jmol-users] identifying proteins in mol2 files

2008-09-10 Thread Robert Hanson
We could set up the mol2 reader to do this. BUT I have to be convinced first that it's a real standard. What programs write these? Is it just totally arbitrary what these IDs are? Are the names standard? Try some more unusual structures, like DNA, RNA, nonstandard amino acids, 1BLU with its FeS4

Re: [Jmol-users] Placing Jmol image in same web page

2008-09-10 Thread Robert Hanson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Steven R. Spilatro [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the 'Placing Jmol image in same web page' which I've updated.

[Jmol-users] Jmol signed applet

2008-09-11 Thread Robert Hanson
Soon Nico will be releasing 11.6.RC14. I think this will be one of our last releases prior to Jmol 1.6.0. Something I'm very interested in people trying out is the signed applet. You can do that at http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/simple.htm The cool thing there is that the

[Jmol-users] Jmol signed applet

2008-09-11 Thread Robert Hanson
[still catching on to Google Mail...] Soon Nico will be releasing 11.6.RC14. I think this will be one of our last releases prior to Jmol 1.6.0. Something I'm very interested in people trying out is the signed applet. You can do that at http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/simple.htm

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol app - size of start-up window

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Hanson
There's help available for the command line, but to see it on a Windows machine you have to use java -jar jmol.jar -h not just jmol.jar -h java -jar jmol.jar -h usage: Jmol -o,--noconsole no console -- all output to sysout -q,--quality JPG image quality (1-100;

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol app - size of start-up window

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Hanson
using java -jar jmol.jar -g600x600 and you should be good to go. Bob On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Reichsman Frieda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 12, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: There's help available for the command line, but to see it on a Windows machine you have to use

[Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-14 Thread Robert Hanson
We are almost there! I think I made some work for the translators, but in general we have an amazing signed applet. Here's the scoop: Basically the signed applet and the application now allow you to script user-prompted file input and saving. All you do is use a question mark in the script:

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
. If someone knows how to coerce Java on the Mac to display a file name entry box, let me know. Othewise I'll have to put up something different for web-based file entry. I suppose it could be added as a separate text box. Bob On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
didn't add that possibility to the menu. On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I'll check out Mac OS tonight. Not surprised, really. http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/Users/paul/Documents/Bob On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Paul Pillot [EMAIL

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
: no more command can be issued... Paul Le 16 sept. 08 à 07:51, Robert Hanson a écrit : Oh, I see now that Java on the Mac doesn't allow entry of filenames by keyboard typing in file-open dialog boxes. That's unfortunate. It boggles my mind why Apple hasn't caught on to the fact that maybe

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6 MacOS

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
11.4.6, MacOS 10.4.11 Jonathan On Sep 16, 2008, at 2:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:51:03 -0500 From: Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6 To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is usually no drastic quality difference. It depends of course of the specific rendering and larger images might also be more problematic. If file size matters in my experience the quality of GIF images of PDB

[Jmol-users] help needed -- bonding radii of anions

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
Jmol has some very odd bonding radii for unusual anions. Note the numbers: (8 4) + (-2 + 4), 1320, // O-2 (8 4) + (-1 + 4), 1760, // O-1 // WAY too large? (14 4) + (-4 + 4), 2710, // Si-4 (14 4) + (-1 + 4), 3840, // Si-1 // same problem here? (34 4) + (-2 + 4), 1910,

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Hanson
Thanks, I'll take a look at that, but more important things to do now. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Hanson wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is usually no drastic quality difference

Re: [Jmol-users] New browser Chrome from Google

2008-09-19 Thread Robert Hanson
good news -- Jmol is working perfectly, including liveConnect, with a recent fix to Chrome. Info on this fix and relevant Chrome release: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=580#c30 Bob On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's saying

[Jmol-users] partial charges

2008-09-19 Thread Robert Hanson
, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: If that's all you want to do, try this: load .pdb set propertydatafield 9 x = load(.mol2) data property_partialcharge @x color property_partialcharge On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Reichsman Frieda [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: That sounds

Re: [Jmol-users] proposed change to Jmol.js

2008-09-21 Thread Robert Hanson
?JMOLJAR=./JmolApplet.jar http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm?JMOLJAR=./JmolAppletSigned.jar Bob On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. Others have comments on this? Bob On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Jmol-users] two issues

2008-09-21 Thread Robert Hanson
From the documentation: *[radius option] Addition of the keyword radius followed by a distance in angstroms allows definition of the radius of a modified or newly created bond. If the modify/create option is absent, then modify is assumed; if the bond type is absent, then bonds of any type are

Re: [Jmol-users] two issues

2008-09-21 Thread Robert Hanson
That's a bug. Fixed for the next version. Workaround is to open the console and type write image ?.jpg Bob On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Volker Blum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, - The Export - image menu as well as the Save current view as an image button do not function in the

Re: [Jmol-users] two issues

2008-09-21 Thread Robert Hanson
I certainly see your point. Once defaults are in, though, that's pretty much a done deal. The idea in this case was that this is the only mechanism for changing the radii of specific bonds that already exist. So it is conservative -- with modify as the default you can always undo it; with create

Re: [Jmol-users] partial charges

2008-09-21 Thread Robert Hanson
, Robert Hanson wrote: The way to get partial charge data into .pdb files is to put it in the temperature field. You can do that with: {*}.temperature = {*}.partialcharge.all Which will work on the revised Jmol that I haven't uploaded yet. Which suggests to me that you might

[Jmol-users] Jmol 11.6.RC15 image write workaround

2008-09-21 Thread Robert Hanson
Sorry, I broke the menu/toolbar buttons for writing images in Jmol 11.6.RC15. The workaround is to open the console and type write image ?.jpg This will open up the dialog box. -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If

[Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-09-22 Thread Robert Hanson
Final testing appreciated for Jmol 11.6. Anything you can do to try to break it would be great. One bug I know about seems to be that the applet stalls if a file load error occurs. I'm onto that one. Bob -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN

Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-09-22 Thread Robert Hanson
(That's the SIGNED applet...) On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One bug I know about seems to be that the applet stalls if a file load error occurs. I'm onto that one. Bob

Re: [Jmol-users] JS code snippet to display PDB TITLE information in Jmol Applet

2008-09-22 Thread Robert Hanson
Nice. You can save yourself a little trouble with: var title = jmolEvaluate('getProperty(fileHeader).split().find(TITLE)') Also, realize that this goes back and retrieves the file again from its source. If you know you want to use the file header this way, it's more efficient to use set

Re: [Jmol-users] Best way to output results of script using Jmol application

2008-09-23 Thread Robert Hanson
Dean, Fun! Yes, write VAR is a great way to go. Signed applet or Jmol application will do that. Bob On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Dean Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear All, I've been playing around with some of the molecular math features of Jmol - it's truly amazing how

Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Hanson
. However, if I run the un-signed Applet, it is still reporting version 11.6.RC14 -- is this known and/or intentional? Cheers, Tom On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Final testing appreciated for Jmol 11.6. Anything you can do to try to break it would be great

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