Re: The (dark) future of Java on desktop

2018-03-08 Thread Simon Poole
In any case, as I read it, the implication is that oracle simply doesn't want to be involved, not that anything will be going away. Simon Am 08.03.2018 um 08:36 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > Hi, > > On 08.03.2018 00:06, Vincent Privat wrote: >> I'm not sure what it implies for the long-term

Re: The (dark) future of Java on desktop

2018-03-08 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 8 Mar 2018, Frederik Ramm wrote: You could sit down today and re-implement everything in, say, C++, and it would be relatively straightforward, and while the result would not share any of JOSM's codebase, it would still encapsulate all the experience and brainpower that has flown into

Re: The (dark) future of Java on desktop

2018-03-08 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 8 Mar 2018, Dirk Stöcker wrote: [nothing] Sorry, operator error :-) Ciao -- http://www.dstoecker.eu/ (PGP key available)

Re: The (dark) future of Java on desktop

2018-03-08 Thread Richard
On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 08:36:21AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > You could sit down today and re-implement everything in, say, C++, and > it would be relatively straightforward, and while the result would not > share any of JOSM's codebase, it would still encapsulate all the > experience and

Re: The (dark) future of Java on desktop

2018-03-08 Thread Vincent Privat
WebStart is going away. It is the only part of Java that isn't open source and they explicitely stated they won't open source it: https://twitter.com/DonaldOJDK/status/971492781616136194 So at least starting from September we'll have to make the WebStart link less prominent as it won't work

Re: The (dark) future of Java on desktop

2018-03-08 Thread Wiktor Niesiobedzki
My reading of this Oracle post is that is to actually change the way you ship the applications. Instead of relying on JRE installation on client station - ship your code bundled with JRE as jlink does (and take care about all the updates yourself). Anyway I guess that we can assume that number of