Re: The (dark) future of Java on desktop

2018-03-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

On 08.03.2018 00:06, Vincent Privat wrote:
> I'm not sure what it implies for the long-term development of JOSM, but
> nothing good I fear.

I wouldn't be too concerned. With all due respect for your coding work,
I don't think that the actual program code is the essential thing about
JOSM. It's the functionality and user interface, the decade-long (!)
evolution that has given us the powerful tool we have today.

You could sit down today and re-implement everything in, say, C++, and
it would be relatively straightforward, and while the result would not
share any of JOSM's codebase, it would still encapsulate all the
experience and brainpower that has flown into JOSM development over the
years.

I think what is essential about JOSM will live on even if Java should die.

Bye
Frederik

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The (dark) future of Java on desktop

2018-03-07 Thread Vincent Privat
Oracle issued this sad, frustrating and almost depressing statement today:

https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/the-future-of-javafx-and-other-java-client-roadmap-updates
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/javaclientroadmapupdate2018mar-4414431.pdf

Forget the "yay this is an exciting moment" of the blog post and read the
details in the white paper: basically it seems all client technologies
(WebStart, AWT, Swing, JavaFX...) are going to die sooner or later.

I'm not sure what it implies for the long-term development of JOSM, but
nothing good I fear.

Vincent