[josm-dev] OSC format for offering proposed changes

2015-02-25 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hey JOSM-dev,

I am curious what JOSMs capabilities are with regard to reading OSC files.
I tried a few OSC files and they seem to read in correctly, but I am not
sure how useful they are for a use case where you would want to offer a
small file with proposed changes to OSM. Say I have a set of changes that
consist of a mix of new tags to existing objects, changed ways / nodes,
added ways / nodes, removed ways / nodes. I want to give this file to
someone to load in JOSM and review + upload if they think the data is good.
Would JOSM XML be a better choice for this?

Thanks for your help,
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Re: [josm-dev] OSC format for offering proposed changes

2015-02-25 Thread Martijn van Exel
The first two downsides you mention, invisible deletes and ignored
changeset tags, are not specific to the TODO plugin, or are they? I mean,
making deletes visible (through a toggle switch perhaps) and supporting
changeset tags in the JOSM XML format is something that could be added to
JOSM core? I think this may be useful.

Martijn

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:

 I use JOSM XML for this all the time.

 I'm able build a file representing add/update/delete operations.
 It works well with the TODO plugin.
 It's all pretty smooth.

 Downsides:
 * The delete operation is a bit invisible: deleted notes only show up at
 upload time.
 * Changeset tags in the file are ignored, so I can't pre-set the tags used
 for any eventual upload.
 * If the file has ways, the TODO plugin is hard to use.  It ends up
 stepping you through each node of the way, which gets tedious.  The
 workaround is to search for any tag, then step through only things that
 have tags.



 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Hey JOSM-dev,

 I am curious what JOSMs capabilities are with regard to reading OSC files.
 I tried a few OSC files and they seem to read in correctly, but I am not
 sure how useful they are for a use case where you would want to offer a
 small file with proposed changes to OSM. Say I have a set of changes that
 consist of a mix of new tags to existing objects, changed ways / nodes,
 added ways / nodes, removed ways / nodes. I want to give this file to
 someone to load in JOSM and review + upload if they think the data is
 good.
 Would JOSM XML be a better choice for this?

 Thanks for your help,
 --
 Martijn van Exel
 skype: mvexel
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Re: [josm-dev] OSC format for offering proposed changes

2015-02-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I use JOSM XML for this all the time.

I'm able build a file representing add/update/delete operations.
It works well with the TODO plugin.
It's all pretty smooth.

Downsides:
* The delete operation is a bit invisible: deleted notes only show up at
upload time.
* Changeset tags in the file are ignored, so I can't pre-set the tags used
for any eventual upload.
* If the file has ways, the TODO plugin is hard to use.  It ends up
stepping you through each node of the way, which gets tedious.  The
workaround is to search for any tag, then step through only things that
have tags.



On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Hey JOSM-dev,

 I am curious what JOSMs capabilities are with regard to reading OSC files.
 I tried a few OSC files and they seem to read in correctly, but I am not
 sure how useful they are for a use case where you would want to offer a
 small file with proposed changes to OSM. Say I have a set of changes that
 consist of a mix of new tags to existing objects, changed ways / nodes,
 added ways / nodes, removed ways / nodes. I want to give this file to
 someone to load in JOSM and review + upload if they think the data is good.
 Would JOSM XML be a better choice for this?

 Thanks for your help,
 --
 Martijn van Exel
 skype: mvexel
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Re: [josm-dev] OSC format for offering proposed changes

2015-02-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
n Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 The first two downsides you mention, invisible deletes and ignored
 changeset tags, are not specific to the TODO plugin, or are they? I mean,
 making deletes visible (through a toggle switch perhaps) and supporting
 changeset tags in the JOSM XML format is something that could be added to
 JOSM core? I think this may be useful.



Because a deleted node is deleted, it can't be selected, so can't be added
to the TODO plugin list.
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The changeset tag is already supported in the OSM XML format... it's just
not processed by the JOSM core.


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Don't discount the third downside.  If you have a mixture of nodes ways and
areas, the third issue really bites.  You select all
and the TODO plugin walks you through every darn node.  It gets a little
better if you review only objects with a tag, but
that's hard to explain.

The dream TODO plugin for me would walk through in proximity order:
a) New objects
b) Modified objects
c) Deleted objects
d) Unmodified objects
With the plugin jumping to the next nearest object at each step ( a
proximity search ).
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