[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-05 Thread Phil Glatz
cfdvlpr wrote: How do you test in both IE 6 and IE 7? Are you able to install both these on the same machine or do you have more than one machine? I use the Microsoft Virtual PC: http://pingv.com/blog/glhines/200712/browser-testing-ie6 It works very well, and since it has its own registry

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-04 Thread timothytoe
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:58 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite I would never in a million years choose to develop in IE first and then FF, there are just so many tools in FF that increases my reproductivity it would

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2008-01-04 Thread Benjamin Sterling
machine...all the way back to IE 4. -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cfdvlpr Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:08 PM To: jQuery (English) Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite How do you

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2008-01-03 Thread Christof Donat
Hi, What debug tools do you all use? [...] How about tools for IE? Is there anything you'd reccomend? alert() Christof

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-03 Thread Andy Matthews
I've used Charles and honestly I don't like it. I use Firebug for FF, and for Flash dev, I use the Flash Net Debugger. A co-worker uses Service Capture, but I've not tried it enough to know if it's good or not. -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-03 Thread Benjamin Sterling
In IE I use a combination of DebugBar, IEDevelopemnt toolbar and Opera (IE and Opera use more or less that same javascript engine and Opera has a nice Error console). I also us the iLogger plugin[1]

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2008-01-03 Thread Jeffrey Kretz
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benjamin Sterling Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:19 AM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite In IE I use a combination of DebugBar, IEDevelopemnt toolbar and Opera (IE and Opera use more or less

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2008-01-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm assuming you're at least using firebug lite so that you can hit F12 and see your console.log messages.

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2008-01-03 Thread McLars
IE debugger available. JK _ From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benjamin Sterling Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:19 AM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite In IE I use

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2008-01-03 Thread Andy Matthews
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLars Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:59 PM To: jQuery (English) Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite IEDeveloperToolbar is somewhat helpful, but kinda flaky. Honestly, though, 99% of the time I just use alert(). I have Firebug

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2008-01-03 Thread Benjamin Sterling
in the primary browser. -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLars Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:59 PM To: jQuery (English) Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite IEDeveloperToolbar is somewhat

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-03 Thread Andy Matthews
: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite Not trying to flame bait here, but I really don't see what so hard about dealing with ALL browsers at once. I hear all the time how hard it is to code for IE and, although I dot come across issues that I need to adjust for, I never feel

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2008-01-03 Thread Jeffrey Kretz
in the primary browser. -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLars Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:59 PM To: jQuery (English) Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite IEDeveloperToolbar is somewhat helpful

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2008-01-03 Thread Alexandre Plennevaux
personally, i use VMWare and have a virtual windows XP installation for IE6 in 1024x768 resolution mode. The standard user. There is an opensource alternative to VMWare which i heard gets the job done: virtualBox: http://www.virtualbox.org/ HTH Alexandre

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2008-01-03 Thread McLars
correctly in the primary browser. -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLars Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:59 PM To: jQuery (English) Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite IEDeveloperToolbar

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2008-01-03 Thread timothytoe
There is a three-IE package, I believe, that runs multiple IEs under Wine in Linux. I know that a few people use that. --TT On Jan 3, 3:07 pm, cfdvlpr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you test in both IE 6 and IE 7? Are you able to install both these on the same machine or do you have more

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-03 Thread Jeffrey Kretz
] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite How do you test in both IE 6 and IE 7? Are you able to install both these on the same machine or do you have more than one machine? We do most of our testing for IE 6 and IE 7 using browsercam. Unfortunately, there's no debugging tools

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2008-01-03 Thread Eridius
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLars Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:59 PM To: jQuery (English) Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite IEDeveloperToolbar is somewhat helpful, but kinda flaky. Honestly, though, 99% of the time I just use alert(). I have

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-03 Thread Jeffrey Kretz
@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLars Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:04 PM To: jQuery (English) Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite Benjamin, I think (hope) we all test occasionally on all the browsers, while we're developing. But, frankly, I'm

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-03 Thread McLars
: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite In IE I use a combination of DebugBar, IEDevelopemnt toolbar and Opera (IE and Opera use more or less that same javascript engine and Opera has a nice Error console).  I also us the iLogger plugin[1] http

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-03 Thread timothytoe
Who are the 1.6% of people using IE5? Do those people actually expect Web 2.0 sites to work?

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-03 Thread timothytoe
It's silly to rail against standards. Yes, we still have to support IE6. But IE8 is moving towards standards compliance and eventually that's what we'll be writing for. We know how this game works. New features show up in new browsers, but we can't use them for a few years until the new browsers

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-03 Thread Rick Faircloth
: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite I would never in a million years choose to develop in IE first and then FF, there are just so many tools in FF that increases my reproductivity it would be slower for me to try to debug first in IE for the issue that FF would let me

[jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite

2008-01-03 Thread Benjamin Sterling
] On Behalf Of Eridius Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:58 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Debug Tools - Charles, DebugBar, Firebug Lite I would never in a million years choose to develop in IE first and then FF, there are just so many tools in FF that increases my