Re: [jug-discussion] Is AspectJ in my future?

2007-01-13 Thread Robert Zeigler
Will you be posting the presentation online somewhere afterward, so those of us who can't attend can still benefit? :) Robert William H. Mitchell wrote: I'll hijack your hijack! With Ruby, I've been pleasantly surprised by the amount of difference that no-compile-step makes. For

Re: [jug-discussion] build tools...

2006-12-30 Thread Robert Zeigler
Thanks for all of the input; it was very helpful (reading hype on a project website is one thing; hearing day-to-day experiences with the build tools is quite another. :) Thanks! Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

[jug-discussion] build tools...

2006-12-23 Thread Robert Zeigler
Without starting a flame-war... ;) I'm about to embark on updating a very brittle build process. It's currently based on a combination of relying on the IDE + a bit of ant In all honesty, I know make better than I know any other build tool, but I'd rather not do this build in make. So, I'm looking

Re: [jug-discussion] MS Access / Filemaker like front-end for MySQL/Oracle?

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Zeigler
Jumping into this conversation. a little late, but... :) I'm not sure how much detail, etc. you need, but open office v2 includes Openoffice Base, which is an MS Access-ish program. I haven't played with it much. By default, it uses hsqldb to create databases, but, like access, you can connect to

Re: [jug-discussion] Google Web Toolkit

2006-05-21 Thread Robert Zeigler
Well, I can't do the 15 min. preso. ;) But I started playing with this last night. They have some nifty tools for getting you off the ground running quickly. I'm still grokking their concept of modules and how all of the pieces fit together, but it's pretty nice. I'll be writing a small app with

Re: [jug-discussion] HLS's presentation

2005-10-06 Thread Robert Zeigler
So where's your blog? :) Robert Warner Onstine wrote: It was excellent! I thought I had sent out a public thank you to Howard (oh, I did it on my blog that's why). -warner On Oct 6, 2005, at 7:38 AM, Robert Zeigler wrote: Btw... I never heard anything from y'all... How was HLS's

Re: [jug-discussion] Why Jython, or Jelly, or Groovy, or Beanshell or ... instead of perl, or sh script?

2005-09-29 Thread Robert Zeigler
I think the issue is that the developer doesn't have remote access to the box; he can only get at the logs through the web. So, scp and rsync are out. wget isn't, of course. :) If it were me... I'd do it in bash using wget. Seems like it would be a one-liner, since you can do it in one line w/

Re: [jug-discussion] it's been fun...

2005-06-24 Thread Robert Zeigler
Michael Oliver wrote: You know of course you don't have to quit the JUG or the list, other quite active, uh...people...have moved off and stayed active, we all wish you would too. I plan on it. But attending the meetings for the next several meetings is probably not going to be an option. ;)

Re: [jug-discussion] it's been fun...

2005-06-24 Thread Robert Zeigler
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Re: [jug-discussion] it's been fun...

2005-06-20 Thread Robert Zeigler
Warner Onstine wrote: Wow, sorry to hear that, but glad for you! Yet another Tucson JUG member out in the real world ;-). ack, the real world? And I thought I was avoiding that by going to grad school! ;) Robert - To

[jug-discussion] it's been fun...

2005-06-13 Thread Robert Zeigler
(computational biology). Thanks again for everything, it's been fun. :) Robert Zeigler - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jug-discussion] And on that note WAS: Re: [jug-discussion] Our thanks to Nick

2005-04-19 Thread Robert Zeigler
Nicholas Lesiecki wrote: Thank you Tom and Rick for the kind words. The JUG has definitely been a big part of my growth and maturation as a software engineer. Tom wasn't kidding when he said that it was full of talented people. I will, of course, continue to lurk on the list to extract the

Re: [jug-discussion] April Presos

2005-04-13 Thread Robert Zeigler
Tim Colson (tcolson) wrote: Hey gang - I just wanted to say thanks again to Ray and Robert for the preso's tonight, and Duffy for getting us access to the bldg/room. I'm inspired... I now want to build a multi-user server with two threads that has purdy buttons. :-) Some interesting code

[jug-discussion] java + openoffice?

2005-03-22 Thread Robert Zeigler
Hey gang. I'm wondering if anybody has any experience generating openoffice documents 'on the fly' in java? Good? Bad? Ugly? From what I've seen so far... it's overly complicated (hm... are all things sun this way? =). It would seem that you have to have an instance of openoffice running

[jug-discussion] gmail, anyone?

2005-02-14 Thread Robert Zeigler
Heya folks. Have some gmail invitations available for anybody interested. E-mail me off-list if you want one. First-come first-serve until they run out. Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [jug-discussion] LMS notes and a question

2005-02-09 Thread Robert Zeigler
DL'ed the quick start sakai package... thought it might interest you to know, Tim, that they are also using velocity for some pieces. ;) Robert Tim Colson (tcolson) wrote: Hey there Mr. Duffy -- The LMS discussion was interesting tonight... took a scant few notes below for those who weren't

Re: [jug-discussion] SCP for Java?

2005-02-08 Thread Robert Zeigler
http://www.jcraft.com/jsch/index.html (Which /is/ what is used inside the ant scp task. BSD-style license. =) Question: what are you using it/wanting it for?? Robert Tim Colson (tcolson) wrote: Hey folks - Anybody know if there is an SCP lib for Java? Perhaps what is used inside the ANT SCP

Re: [jug-discussion] SCP for Java?

2005-02-08 Thread Robert Zeigler
was gonna say... if you juts need a java ssh client, there are several of those around; no need to reinvent the wheel. But if you need programmatic access to scp, then, looks like this lib is the way to go! g'luck. Robert Cheers, Timo -Original Message- From: Robert Zeigler [mailto

[jug-discussion] NIO

2005-01-12 Thread Robert Zeigler
Two things 1) Wanted to make a correction/clarification to something I said last night about blocking/non-blocking I/O. in nio, sockets and pipes may be placed in non-blocking mode, but file channels (channels are the nio paradigm for dealing w/ i/o... sorta like a stream, but cooler =) may

Re: [jug-discussion] Spring FUD is unfounded.... RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-10 Thread Robert Zeigler
Richard Hightower wrote: Tuesday should be a lively discussion. I am sharpening my tongue. :o) On that note... will you be presenting your spring pres. to us? Or am I still presenting NIO? =) (Again... I'm perfectly happy presenting; I'm perfectly happy not presenting. Just so long as I know

Re: [jug-discussion] Speaking at the Phoenix JUG on Spring

2005-01-08 Thread Robert Zeigler
I certainly have no objections to postponing my presentation on NIO. Any thoughts? =) Robert Thomas Hicks wrote: Geez...if all we had to do was ask, then I'm asking. I've been reading the Spring book and would LOVE to see your presentation. Would you like to give it to us first?our meeting is

Re: [jug-discussion] codiing shootout?

2005-01-05 Thread Robert Zeigler
Personally, I really like the idea of a coding shootout... same problem, different technologies. I'm not sure about doing it live. Personally, I'd rather have a few days to whip something up, but I think it would certainly be fair to ask participants in whatever shoot-out to keep track of the

Re: [jug-discussion] January Topic?

2004-12-29 Thread Robert Zeigler
Tim Colson wrote: Yes, Robert Zeigler has volunteered to speak on the Java New I/O package. Alrighty. :-) Robert, can you give a quick overview for posting up on the website? A quick overview, eh? NIO -Why is it -problems NIO attempts to address -What is it -Overview of buffers, channels

Re: [jug-discussion] Java based Wiki

2004-11-22 Thread Robert Zeigler
Randolph Kahle wrote: I am considering hosting a Wiki environment for our family web site. When I did a search of Java based Wiki tools, three have come to the surface: XWiki SnipSnap Confluence Does anyone have experience with these? Any thoughts about which one would be best suited for a

Re: [jug-discussion] holiday party - dec. 14th

2004-10-30 Thread Robert Zeigler
My vote is for either 2 or 3 (I like 3 best. Unfortunately, I can't volunteer my house. It wouldn't fit everyone. ;) Robert Warner Onstine wrote: Hi all, I know I mentioned this at the last meeting as well as the meeting before so I thought I would bring up the topic on list. We (management

Re: [jug-discussion] Oct Meeting Topic?

2004-10-04 Thread Robert Zeigler
Was that going to be the 1hr. or a 15 min. pres? Robert Tim Colson wrote: Hey folks - I won't be starting the Macromedia Flex research until next week -- meaning I won't have any code to leverage for a presentation until the November meeting. Somebody else will need to step up for October.

Re: [jug-discussion] How to grab a Spring configured bean?

2004-09-23 Thread Robert Zeigler
Timo, I'm not a spring expert, so I set out to the trusty google... following article looked fairly promising... http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/21665 Had some examples of using XmlBeanFactory to get at the info (apparently not really recommended, though), discussion of setter/constructor

[jug-discussion] Tapestry Presentation, follow-up

2004-09-15 Thread Robert Zeigler
FYI: For those interested in learning more about tapestry... Warner has begun a series of tapestry tutorials (2 in the series so far) at: http://www.sandcastsoftware.com/articlesandtutorials/brownbag/index.html#tapestry There's a more basic tutorial available at:

Re: [jug-discussion] Meeting Tues Sep 14

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Zeigler
Tim Colson wrote: And of course, let us not forget the main event, the smack-down of generations, the Framework battle royale! The articulate and wise Robert Zeigler will tell us why we should all be using _Tapestry_ for webapps, and how to do it. :-) Hm... not exactly the way I would

[jug-discussion] Next week's meeting

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Zeigler
So, for the meeting next week, Warner has asked me to present on Tapestry. I have a few ideas on how I'd like to do the presentation, but would like some feedback as to what people would be most interested in. * I have a couple of (more-or-less) completed tapestry projects that I could show,

[jug-discussion] Atlassian confluence rendering component?

2004-08-12 Thread Robert Zeigler
Hey Tim, what was the name of that open source wiki rendering component being utilized in atlassian's confluence? Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jug-discussion] First Annual JUG Third Anniversary BBQ

2004-07-14 Thread Robert Zeigler
I'll be there with my wife and (10 month old) daughter. Robert Terence Rudkin wrote: That's right boys and girls it is here. This Saturday July 17 from 2pm till 5pm (or whenever) at TR and Rene's. Burgers, salads, snacks, goodies, iced tea, and sodas well be provided. Bring your Self

Re: [jug-discussion] signed applets + konqueror or opera...

2004-06-14 Thread Robert Zeigler
Actually, the applet functions correctly/as expected on Mozilla/Netscape, as well as IE. It's opera and konqueror that have the problems. In fact, Opera for windows functions as expected, so, it's specifically opera for linux (7.11) and konq. that have the problems. They're completely ignoring

[jug-discussion] signed applets + konqueror or opera...

2004-06-12 Thread Robert Zeigler
this before? Any ideas on directions to head? TIA. Robert Zeigler - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jug-discussion] Webapp frameworks

2004-03-05 Thread Robert Zeigler
Richard Hightower wrote: AppFuse is similar to Turbine, but it is Struts/Spring based, plus it has a lot of additional Struts centric project (like display tag, Erik's label tag that integrates with Validator framework, and such). I used AppFuse on my last two projects with great success. If you

Re: [jug-discussion] Webapp frameworks

2004-03-05 Thread Robert Zeigler
Erik Hatcher wrote: Robert, I'll keep this relatively brief, and hopefully pragmatic. No one web framework is *the* one for all situations. The size of your project needs to be taken into consideration as well as the talent of your team and what kind of flexibility the end users demand. If

Re: [jug-discussion] Webapp frameworks

2004-03-05 Thread Robert Zeigler
Tim Colson wrote: Robert wrote: suffice it to say that I'm not convinced that [Struts is] the framework for me... at least not for this project. It's kind of funny to me. Two years ago at JavaOne, Craig McClanahan and Struts seemed to be the talk of the show. I'm in the minority, but I'm

[jug-discussion] HttpSession question...

2004-02-19 Thread Robert Zeigler
Recently, somebody proposed an interesting question to me which, though I'm pretty sure I know the answer, I've been unable to verify. So, I decided to turn here to see if someone with more wisdom than I had an answer. ;) My understanding of HttpSessions is that, unless you specifically write

Re: [jug-discussion] HttpSession question...

2004-02-19 Thread Robert Zeigler
by appending it as a URL parameter, but that is really just another name for a form field. Maybe that is what they are thinking of. Robert Zeigler wrote: However, someone made a claim to me recently that some information stored as a session attribute could be alterred directly by the user, client

[jug-discussion] Struts

2004-01-05 Thread Robert Zeigler
) and Profession Struts Development. Anyway, before I go fork out the cash, I was wondering if anyone here had any opinions on these or other reference materials? Thanks in advance, Robert Zeigler - To unsubscribe, e-mail