Re: [jug-discussion] February Meeting

2004-02-09 Thread Randolph Kahle
Cool. When / where is the next meeting? Regards, Randy On Feb 9, 2004, at 1:40 PM, Simon Ritchie wrote: Sorry about the late notice. For this month's meeting, Nick Lesiecki will be doing a presentation on Testing with Virtual Mock Objects (it involves AspectJ). Any volunteers for a 15 min

Re: [jug-discussion] February Meeting

2004-02-09 Thread Andrew Huntwork
i would like to do a 15 min presentation on Java Bytecode Inspection, Manipulation, and Generation Using BCEL. Simon Ritchie wrote: [...] Any volunteers for a 15 min presentation would be welcome. Simon. -- I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as

Re: [jug-discussion] February Meeting

2004-02-09 Thread Warner Onstine
+1! -warner On Feb 9, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Andrew Huntwork wrote: i would like to do a 15 min presentation on Java Bytecode Inspection, Manipulation, and Generation Using BCEL. Simon Ritchie wrote: [...] Any volunteers for a 15 min presentation would be welcome. Simon. -- I say to you that the

Re: [jug-discussion] February Meeting

2004-02-09 Thread Chad Woolley
Hi, I could do a 5-10 minute ad-hoc spiel (no slides or computer!) on my experiences with using Bytecode Manipulation in conjunction with Aspect-Oriented Programming frameworks, and some pitfalls I encountered. This would be based on my experience with my VirtualMock project, which is based

Re: [jug-discussion] February Meeting

2004-02-09 Thread Simon Ritchie
Wow, two volunteers within 10 minutes. Ok, this sounds pretty good. What sequence is going to work best? I'm guessing: 1. Andrew - BCEL (15min) 2. Chad - Bytecode manipulation as related to Aspect (5-10min) 3. Nick - Mock Objects using Aspect (1hr) Simon. Chad Woolley wrote: Hi, I could do a

Re: [jug-discussion] February Meeting

2004-02-09 Thread Andrew Huntwork
i have no problem with that sequence Simon Ritchie wrote: Wow, two volunteers within 10 minutes. Ok, this sounds pretty good. What sequence is going to work best? I'm guessing: 1. Andrew - BCEL (15min) 2. Chad - Bytecode manipulation as related to Aspect (5-10min) 3. Nick - Mock Objects using

RE: [jug-discussion] February Meeting

2004-02-09 Thread Tim Colson
What sequence is going to work best? I'm guessing: My vote would be for the reverse order. Gives Nick plenty of time plus a chance to get us familiar with some of the concepts that might be revisited by Chad/Andrew. 3. Nick - Mock Objects using Aspect (1hr) 2. Chad - Bytecode manipulation as

Re: [jug-discussion] February Meeting

2004-02-09 Thread Chad Woolley
I would tend to agree - both with the order, and letting Nick have the final say :). I think I would build on some of Nick's topics, and Andrew might shed some light on the issues I bring up. -- Chad Tim Colson wrote: What sequence is going to work best? I'm guessing: My vote would be for