Re: [jug-discussion] open laslo

2006-11-13 Thread Chad Woolley
Yes, true OO nature of Ruby is nice - everything is an object - operators, classes, class and instance methods. I'd be interested to see how Groovy compares in this area. For example, how easy is it to open up an existing third party class and add/override class methods. Having done this in

Re: [jug-discussion] open laslo

2006-11-10 Thread Art Gramlich
Actually, I'd say sun is endoring jruby more since they have hired the two main developers to work on it. Kinda funny since Groovy seems like a better java integration choice. Now if they would just fix the major bugs and get a 1.0 out. On Nov 9, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Warner Onstine wrote:

RE: [jug-discussion] open laslo

2006-11-10 Thread Michael Oliver
Yes we are, but we find we can do most everything we want to do with dojo, rico or Zapatec. Michael Oliver CTO Alarius Systems LLC POB 56112 Hill AFB, UT 84056 Phone:(702)866-9034 Cell:(518)378-6154 Fax:(702)974-0341 -Original Message- From: Randolph Kahle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jug-discussion] open laslo

2006-11-10 Thread Warner Onstine
Personally I don't care what Sun is supporting ;-), I just want to learn Groovy for one of my projects. I also want to learn Ruby (and RoR) but that's a different project that I've picked for that. The whole JRuby thing is a little weird and Sun has officially stated that they are not

Re: [jug-discussion] open laslo

2006-11-10 Thread Chad Woolley
I'm not sure that Groovy is a better java integration choice. Assuming that both can be made to work equally well when compiling to bytecode and working with native java 3rd party libs, why not choose a fairly mature language that has widespread and growing popularity , rather than something

Re: [jug-discussion] open laslo

2006-11-09 Thread Warner Onstine
I would very much like to, but that project hasn't bubbled up to the top yet, next on my list is groovy ;-). -warner On Nov 9, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Randolph Kahle wrote: Is anyone using or thinking about using open laslo? -- Randy

Re: [jug-discussion] open laslo

2006-11-09 Thread Chad Woolley
Why groovy vs. Jruby, other than the fact that Sun is endorsing Groovy? We all know that Sun only endorses usable and technically viable solutions (like J2EE). OpenLazlo looks pretty cool, especially if it compiles to DHTML. Haven't used it myself. -- Chad On 11/9/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL