Re: RFC: unmounting /mnt on AWS instances

2014-11-18 Thread Stuart Bishop
On 18 November 2014 09:25, Marco Ceppi ma...@ondina.co wrote: I have a few charms that expect /mnt to be the ephemeral disk, while it wouldn't be a huge headache and I certainly wouldn't want to stand in the way of progress. It won't be trivial and I'll start to devise a way to test all the

Juju in LXC

2014-11-18 Thread Ondrej Kuznik
Hi all, a bit of background: running Debian on a not-so-high-spec machine, the most often suggested way of running Juju (vagrant) has not been the best experience so far. The VM eats most of my RAM (the few bits not taken up by Iceweasel already) and takes ages to do the simplest of things. Yet

juju gui release 1.2.4 with new added services view

2014-11-18 Thread Richard Harding
The Juju UI Engineering team is proud to announce the latest release of the Juju GUI, version 1.2.4. This release comes with a new feature, the added services bar. In short, it's a view in the left sidebar that allows you to highlight, show, and hide services in your canvas and machine view. Jeff

Big Data - Laymans Comprehension

2014-11-18 Thread Charles Butler
In this weeks blog post I try my hand at breaking down comprehension barriers on some of the core components of the big data stack - part 1. How the fit within the ecosystem. And expose some of the growing pains I experienced just understanding the landscape as a non-data-scientist coming into the

Re: Let's Encrypt

2014-11-18 Thread Charles Butler
I *LOVE* this idea. Great share Robert! I'm wondering (after some research/field testing) if we don't turn this into a charm-helper for easy/quick consumption in charming, then feature it in an upcoming charm school... On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Robert Ayres robert.ay...@canonical.com

Re: Let's Encrypt

2014-11-18 Thread José Antonio Rey
Would be an awesome candidate for a subordinate charm! Great find, Robert! -- José Antonio Rey On Nov 18, 2014 12:38 PM, Charles Butler charles.but...@canonical.com wrote: I *LOVE* this idea. Great share Robert! I'm wondering (after some research/field testing) if we don't turn this into a

Juju Open Question + Answer Forum - UOS1411 repost

2014-11-18 Thread Charles Butler
If you missed the 1411 UOS - the Juju team had some great sessions - one of the most important being our community open forum for Q+A from the Juju Charmers/Solutions team. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NHhLF9uewU The video is 50 minutes of raw Q+A footage with the community where some great

juju devel 1.21-beta3 is released

2014-11-18 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
juju-core 1.21-beta3 A new development release of Juju, juju-core 1.21-beta3, is now available. This release replaces 1.21-beta2. Getting Juju juju-core 1.21-beta3 is available for utopic and backported to earlier series in the following PPA: https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/devel

Re: RFC: unmounting /mnt on AWS instances

2014-11-18 Thread Andrew Wilkins
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:58 PM, David Britton david.brit...@canonical.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Marco Ceppi ma...@ondina.co wrote: I have a few charms that expect /mnt to be the ephemeral disk, while it wouldn't be a huge headache and I certainly I'm in the same boat,

Re: RFC: unmounting /mnt on AWS instances

2014-11-18 Thread Stuart Bishop
On 19 November 2014 09:50, Andrew Wilkins andrew.wilk...@canonical.com wrote: Ideally that would not be /mnt, because otherwise we're going to end up with a lot of charms that cannot be co-located. My point is that it can be /mnt, and your charm will keep working without any changes to hooks.

Re: RFC: unmounting /mnt on AWS instances

2014-11-18 Thread Andrew Wilkins
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Stuart Bishop stuart.bis...@canonical.com wrote: On 19 November 2014 09:50, Andrew Wilkins andrew.wilk...@canonical.com wrote: Ideally that would not be /mnt, because otherwise we're going to end up with a lot of charms that cannot be co-located. My point

Re: Feature Request: show running relations in 'juju status'

2014-11-18 Thread Stuart Bishop
On 18 November 2014 12:23, Ian Booth ian.bo...@canonical.com wrote: On 17/11/14 15:47, Stuart Bishop wrote: On 17 November 2014 07:13, Ian Booth ian.bo...@canonical.com wrote: The new Juju Status work planned for this cycle will hopefully address the main concern about knowing when a

Fwd: New checker jc.IsNil

2014-11-18 Thread roger peppe
On 18 November 2014 04:22, Tim Penhey tim.pen...@canonical.com wrote: 'ello 'ackers, This is something that I have been meaning to add for quite some time. We have been recording stack traces with the juju/errors library, but until now, they have been of limited use. One of the key places

Re: New checker jc.IsNil

2014-11-18 Thread roger peppe
On 18 November 2014 04:22, Tim Penhey tim.pen...@canonical.com wrote: 'ello 'ackers, This is something that I have been meaning to add for quite some time. We have been recording stack traces with the juju/errors library, but until now, they have been of limited use. One of the key places

Re: Automatic environment filtering for DB queries

2014-11-18 Thread Menno Smits
Thanks John and Tim. I really like these ideas, especially because it means the team doesn't need to learn a new way of working (and remember to keep using the new way). In most cases, the thing returned by getCollection() will be able to be used in the same way as before, even though it'll

juju devel 1.21-beta3 is released

2014-11-18 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
juju-core 1.21-beta3 A new development release of Juju, juju-core 1.21-beta3, is now available. This release replaces 1.21-beta2. Getting Juju juju-core 1.21-beta3 is available for utopic and backported to earlier series in the following PPA: https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/devel

Too space, or not two space

2014-11-18 Thread Jesse Meek
I'm coming across double spaces after a full stop in comments. Some consider this an error, others an intentional style that makes the comment cleaner to read. Yes, it's a minor point but in the name of consistency and avoiding future review ping pong on the issue, I'm calling for a vote:

Re: Too space, or not two space

2014-11-18 Thread David Cheney
To quote Butterick's http://practicaltypography.com/one-space-between-sentences.html I think two spaces look bet­ter so that’s what I’m go­ing to use. I’m telling you the rule. If you want to put per­sonal taste ahead of the rule, I can’t stop you. But per­sonal taste doesn’t make the rule

Re: Too space, or not two space

2014-11-18 Thread Jesse Meek
I take that as +1 from Dave. On 19/11/14 13:13, David Cheney wrote: To quote Butterick's http://practicaltypography.com/one-space-between-sentences.html I think two spaces look bet­ter so that’s what I’m go­ing to use. I’m telling you the rule. If you want to put per­sonal taste ahead of the

Re: Too space, or not two space

2014-11-18 Thread John Weldon
+1 to the Third Way (and to single space) -- John Weldon On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Jesse Meek jesse.m...@canonical.com wrote: I take that as +1 from Dave. On 19/11/14 13:13, David Cheney wrote: To quote Butterick's http://practicaltypography.com/one-space-between-sentences.html

Re: Feature Request: show running relations in 'juju status'

2014-11-18 Thread Jorge Niedbalski
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Kapil Thangavelu kapil.thangav...@canonical.com wrote: status per future impl helps, as does explicitly marking units.. but pending cluster count is a missing and important property to properly establish quorum in a peer rel from one to n that is only resolved

Re: Too space, or not two space

2014-11-18 Thread Nick Veitch
It should be a single space, unless the comments are being written on a typewriter. To someone in the US. In the 1960s. On Nov 18, 2014 6:15 PM, Jesse Meek jesse.m...@canonical.com wrote: I take that as +1 from Dave. On 19/11/14 13:13, David Cheney wrote: To quote Butterick's

Re: Too space, or not two space

2014-11-18 Thread Nate Finch
I vote for this is dumb and should not matter either way. On Nov 18, 2014 7:22 PM, John Weldon johnweld...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to the Third Way (and to single space) -- John Weldon On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Jesse Meek jesse.m...@canonical.com wrote: I take that as +1 from Dave.

Re: Too space, or not two space

2014-11-18 Thread Tim Penhey
I learned to type on a typewriter (both mechanical and electric) back in the 1980s, and it was two spaces then. Personally I don't care and I'll go with whatever is suggested. Tim On 19/11/14 13:24, Nick Veitch wrote: It should be a single space, unless the comments are being written on a

Re: Too space, or not two space

2014-11-18 Thread Dimiter Naydenov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19.11.2014 02:10, Jesse Meek wrote: I'm coming across double spaces after a full stop in comments. Some consider this an error, others an intentional style that makes the comment cleaner to read. Yes, it's a minor point but in the name of

Re: Too space, or not two space

2014-11-18 Thread roger peppe
FWIW, this conversation has come up in the Go developer's mailing list before. The decision was that either way is acceptable in code, *but* that godoc turns a two space separator into a single space separator with it format comments (that change was made as a result of the conversation). I

Re: Too space, or not two space

2014-11-18 Thread Ales Stimec
+0, as well. On 19 Nov 2014, at 08:25, roger peppe roger.pe...@canonical.com wrote: FWIW, this conversation has come up in the Go developer's mailing list before. The decision was that either way is acceptable in code, *but* that godoc turns a two space separator into a single space