Re: Juju is still too hard

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Schwartz
Juju, The note I got from Nate on Azure is below (after wasting a day trying to get it working...) At OSCON, I worked with Jorge and even he couldn't get my local VM working, but I'm willing to give it a try again. I'd be willing to schedule a meeting (please email me off the list to

Re: Juju is still too hard

2014-09-22 Thread Mark Ramm-Christensen (Canonical.com)
I think we need to make sure that we do the best error reporting we can, so if Juju isn't working because of Azure issues, we should find some way to let users know that so that they can try another cloud, contact microsoft, or otherwise find another way forward. --Mark Ramm On Mon, Sep 22, 2014

Re: Juju is still too hard

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Schwartz
Agreed. There is only one page on Azure, so it would be nice if there was a note that said Don't waste your time... Azure isn't working today. - Mike On 2014-09-22 09:06, Mark Ramm-Christensen (Canonical.com) wrote: I think we need to make sure that we do the best error reporting we can,

I gave a quick writeup over Juju on Digital Ocean

2014-09-22 Thread Charles Butler
http://blog.dasroot.net/juju-digital-ocean-awesome/ Juju on Digital Ocean, WOW! That's all I have to say. Digital Ocean is one of the fastest cloud hosts around with their SSD backed virtual machines. To top it off their billing is a no-nonsense straight forward model. $5/mo for their lowest end

Re: I gave a quick writeup over Juju on Digital Ocean

2014-09-22 Thread Nate Finch
Nice! Digital Ocean really is super fast my Discourse charm takes 21(!) minutes to deploy on an AWS m1.small and 7 minutes on a DO 2GB droplet, which is 2/3rds the price of the amazon instance. Kapil's digital ocean plugin really makes it all (relatively) seamless, too. I look forward to

Re: Juju is still too hard

2014-09-22 Thread Charles Butler
Michael, I read the title of this email and my heart sank a little. This reminds me that we are still moving forward at break neck speed and what ground we've covered and stepped into the next chapter may not be completely solid for someone without the experiences that I have myself. When you

Re: I gave a quick writeup over Juju on Digital Ocean

2014-09-22 Thread Sebastian
Yeah! DO rocks, and like Nate said, can't wait for the real provider !!! Here's a quote about that from Kapil: Its possible *(although unscheduled atm) *a real provider could be done for DO when the provider object storage requirements are dropped from juju which is work that's scheduled. The

Re: I gave a quick writeup over Juju on Digital Ocean

2014-09-22 Thread Charles Butler
Just a quick note: Basin has seen we were #1 and sent people over to vote, so we're now in a tie for the #1 spot on the DO api integration page. If you've used Juju on DO, please dont hesitate to head over to their community listing and vote for us!

Re: I gave a quick writeup over Juju on Digital Ocean

2014-09-22 Thread Adam Stokes
There is also this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1372543 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Charles Butler charles.but...@canonical.com wrote: Just a quick note: Basin has seen we were #1 and sent people over to vote, so we're now in a tie for the #1 spot on the DO api

Re: I gave a quick writeup over Juju on Digital Ocean

2014-09-22 Thread Adam Stokes
Something else that would be cool is to submit your blog posts as a tutorial on DO On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Adam Stokes adam.sto...@ubuntu.com wrote: There is also this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1372543 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Charles Butler

Re: I gave a quick writeup over Juju on Digital Ocean

2014-09-22 Thread Kapil Thangavelu
andrew has almost finished the work on getting providers by default not using object storage (already quite functional).. The other missing piece is getting DO to install cloud-init into their default ubuntu images, and supporting their variation on ec2 metadata api for retrieving userdata within

New Big Data Bundles have landed!

2014-09-22 Thread Charles Butler
It may be still in the ingest-o-tron, pending ~ 20 minutes from posting, but I've just landed 3 new big data bundles for our data scientists out there to consume for our new Hortonworks Hadoop stack. Deploy the base Hadoop Map/Reduce engine: juju quickstart

Re: Announcing the ubuntu-mirror charm

2014-09-22 Thread Marco Ceppi
Hi Chris! Awesome work on the charm, I'm not sure I'll ever need to mirror the entire Ubuntu repository, but if I ever did I'm happy there's a charm for it! I do like that it leverages the storage charm and is scaleout safe (safe for bandwidth + wallet too). Marco On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:55

Re: Announcing the ubuntu-mirror charm

2014-09-22 Thread Christopher Glass
Yes, I realize the use case is pretty narrow :) You can mirror single components as well (just the apt archives, just cloud images, etc...), so maybe you can use it as offline helper as well (juju deploy on the plane?) Chris On Sep 23, 2014 6:01 AM, Marco Ceppi marco.ce...@canonical.com wrote:

Versioned packages and testing dependencies

2014-09-22 Thread John Meinel
So Bogdan Teleaga was kind enough to put in the effort to move all of our source trees to start importing from gopkg.in/check.v1 rather than depending on labix.org/gocheck. However, this means that if we land those changes, code that depends on the testing infrastructure provided by those

Re: Versioned packages and testing dependencies

2014-09-22 Thread roger peppe
That's an interesting observation and I think I agree. The general rule is probably something like this: - If a type is part of the exported API of a versioned package and the package is changed to import that type from somewhere else, the package's version must be incremented. Given that

Re: Versioned packages and testing dependencies

2014-09-22 Thread David Cheney
John, Roger, This situation right here is why I am strongly opposed to the gopkg.in versioning model. I recommend reverting to the original launchpad location. Dave On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:56 PM, roger peppe roger.pe...@canonical.com wrote: That's an interesting observation and I think I

Re: Versioned packages and testing dependencies

2014-09-22 Thread roger peppe
On 22 September 2014 12:59, David Cheney david.che...@canonical.com wrote: John, Roger, This situation right here is why I am strongly opposed to the gopkg.in versioning model. I recommend reverting to the original launchpad location. Dave I understand your concern - having multiple

Re: Is ReviewBoard a good thing?

2014-09-22 Thread Eric Snow
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Jesse Meek jesse.m...@canonical.com wrote: On 20/09/14 02:34, Eric Snow wrote: I was not seriously suggesting we return to lp. Using ReviewBoard reintroduces what we gave up with lp: both the good (tooling that addresses pain points) and the bad (not a well

Re: Is ReviewBoard a good thing?

2014-09-22 Thread Nate Finch
So, the automation between github and reviewboard seems necessary, so we should do that. It shouldn't be hard at all. Then the steps for submitting code will be: 1.) Submit a PR 2.) Get it reviewed on the automatically-created review. 3.) With a LGTM on the review, mark as $$merge$$ and the bot

Re: The Pros and Cons of ReviewBoard.

2014-09-22 Thread Matthew Williams
Just in case we're counting, another pro: You are able to seperate pushing branches to github and creating a new version of code for review Matty On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Eric Snow eric.s...@canonical.com wrote: Given that I've in some part driven the switch to ReviewBoard, I want to