Re: charm-helpers fetch apt_install optimization

2014-11-20 Thread Charles Butler
Jay, I think you're touching on some important topics. Tuning and optimizing charm installation without fetching tons of extra packages around an install is certainly something I'm very open to experimentation with. This particular merge makes me suggest we run this through the gauntlet of

Re: charm-helpers fetch apt_install optimization

2014-11-20 Thread Marco Ceppi
I have to disagree slightly, currently (and thankfully?) the current way most charm-helpers aim to be included in charms is by embedding a working snapshot of that version of charm-helpers. So merging this wouldn't affect a huge number of charms, instead maybe the 5 or 6 at most that download from

Reminder: Charm School tomorrow on debugging hooks

2014-11-20 Thread Jorge O. Castro
Hi everyone, Just a reminder that tomorrow we'll be having a charm school on debugging hooks with myself, Chuck Butler, and Corey Johns. Time: 1500EST/1300PST/200UTC Place: #juju on itc and http://ubuntuonair.com As always the session will be recorded for reuse, and if you haven't noticed we've

juju 2.20.12 is proposed

2014-11-20 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
juju-core 1.20.12 A new proposed stable release of Juju, juju-core 1.20.12, is now available. This release may replace stable 1.20.11 after a period of evaluation. If no issues are raised about this version, it will released on or after November 21, 2014. Getting Juju juju-core 1.20.12 is

juju 1.20.12 is proposed for release

2014-11-20 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
juju-core 1.20.12 A new proposed stable release of Juju, juju-core 1.20.12, is now available. This release may replace stable 1.20.11 after a period of evaluation. If no issues are raised about this version, it will released on or after November 21, 2014. Getting Juju juju-core 1.20.12 is

Re: juju 2.20.12 is proposed

2014-11-20 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
Oops. We are a few years away form 2.20.12, 1.20.12 is the actual proposal. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Curtis Hovey-Canonical cur...@canonical.com wrote: -- Curtis Hovey Canonical Cloud Development and Operations http://launchpad.net/~sinzui -- Juju mailing list Juju@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: charm-helpers fetch apt_install optimization

2014-11-20 Thread Cory Johns
Reiterating my comment on the MP, I agree with Marco that, due in part to the fixed-point usage pattern of charm-helpers and in part to the specifics of the change, I don't see it as having much potential for breakage. That said, I'm certainly not against testing it before merging. On Thu, Nov

Re: 1.21 critical issue - fixing juju-run

2014-11-20 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Tim Penhey tim.pen...@canonical.com wrote: Hi Curtis, https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1392745 This needs to be fixed on 1.20, 1.21 and master branches. The fix has landed on 1.20. Hopefully landed on 1.21 by the time you read this. Work needed

m1.small rapidly becoming a scarce commodity

2014-11-20 Thread Nate Finch
Here's the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1373516 I just heard from Jorge Castro that Robert (the person who filed the initial bug) is reporting that m1.smalls are going away even faster than we expected. This needs to get fixed ASAP. We need to change the ec2 provider to

Re: m1.small rapidly becoming a scarce commodity

2014-11-20 Thread Aaron Bentley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-11-20 02:49 PM, Nate Finch wrote: We need to change the ec2 provider to request something else instead Isn't Juju 1.21 switching to SSD instances? https://launchpad.net/juju-core/+milestone/1.21-alpha2 Aaron -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

It's Friday, results are in on spaces issue

2014-11-20 Thread Jesse Meek
http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/509/ -- Juju-dev mailing list Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev

Re: It's Friday, results are in on spaces issue

2014-11-20 Thread Nate Finch
Oh come on. I thought there was agreement to just drop this? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Jesse Meek jesse.m...@canonical.com wrote: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/509/ -- Juju-dev mailing list Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/

juju 1.20.12 is proposed for release

2014-11-20 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
juju-core 1.20.12 A new proposed stable release of Juju, juju-core 1.20.12, is now available. This release may replace stable 1.20.11 after a period of evaluation. If no issues are raised about this version, it will released on or after November 21, 2014. Getting Juju juju-core 1.20.12 is

Re: juju 2.20.12 is proposed

2014-11-20 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
Oops. We are a few years away form 2.20.12, 1.20.12 is the actual proposal. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Curtis Hovey-Canonical cur...@canonical.com wrote: -- Curtis Hovey Canonical Cloud Development and Operations http://launchpad.net/~sinzui -- Juju-dev mailing list

Re: It's Friday, results are in on spaces issue

2014-11-20 Thread Jesse Meek
It got three ship its and has just landed. Nate has called for team leads to re-vote on it. From my perspective, the team voted, it's documented and we are done. Even if the decision changes to it does not matter, it is still a decision to put in the style guide. I'm now signing out of this