Re: charm-helpers fetch apt_install optimization

2014-11-20 Thread Charles Butler
Jay, I think you're touching on some important topics. Tuning and optimizing charm installation without fetching tons of extra packages around an install is certainly something I'm very open to experimentation with. This particular merge makes me suggest we run this through the gauntlet of

Re: charm-helpers fetch apt_install optimization

2014-11-20 Thread Marco Ceppi
I have to disagree slightly, currently (and thankfully?) the current way most charm-helpers aim to be included in charms is by embedding a working snapshot of that version of charm-helpers. So merging this wouldn't affect a huge number of charms, instead maybe the 5 or 6 at most that download from

Re: charm-helpers fetch apt_install optimization

2014-11-20 Thread Cory Johns
Reiterating my comment on the MP, I agree with Marco that, due in part to the fixed-point usage pattern of charm-helpers and in part to the specifics of the change, I don't see it as having much potential for breakage. That said, I'm certainly not against testing it before merging. On Thu, Nov

charm-helpers fetch apt_install optimization

2014-11-19 Thread Jay Wren
Greetings, I wanted to bring attention to a pending MR https://code.launchpad.net/~evarlast/charm-helpers/use-no-install-recommends/+merge/242270 which I feel can help charm-helpers. By not installing recommended packages, charms will install packages faster, with less unneeded packages. This