Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Florian Oswald
ok guys i won't dig myself a deeper hole here - you win. (savored my 3 seconds of fame before steven corrected that typo tough!) On 18 September 2014 18:21, Jameson Nash wrote: > I'm not sure about most people, but given the first expression, I would > have handed the paper back and told the au

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Jameson Nash
I'm not sure about most people, but given the first expression, I would have handed the paper back and told the author to clarify the ambiguity. On Thursday, September 18, 2014, Florian Oswald wrote: > well, I guess most computer scientists would be surprised. writing on a > piece of paper > > -

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Steven G. Johnson
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:59:10 PM UTC-4, Steven G. Johnson wrote: > > Note that in Fortran, Python, Matlab, and Mathematica, the exponentiation > operator has higher precedence than unary -, similar to Julia. -10^2 in > WolframAlpha (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-10%5E2) gives

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread John Myles White
I think that was a typo for not surprised. -- John On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Steven G. Johnson wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:00:32 PM UTC-4, Florian Oswald wrote: > well, I guess most computer scientists would be surprised. writing on a piece > of paper > > -10^2 > >

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Steven G. Johnson
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:00:32 PM UTC-4, Florian Oswald wrote: > > well, I guess most computer scientists would be surprised. writing on a > piece of paper > > -10^2 > > and > > -(10^2) > > I think most people are going to say the first expression is 100 and the > second is -100. I ta

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Florian Oswald
well, I guess most computer scientists would be surprised. writing on a piece of paper -10^2 and -(10^2) I think most people are going to say the first expression is 100 and the second is -100. I take the point that what I did was a bit stupid and Julia is not making any mistake here. On 18 Se

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Gunnar Farnebäck
It's not like Julia is doing anything strange or uncommon here. Most people would be really surprised if -10² meant positive 100. Den torsdagen den 18:e september 2014 kl. 15:01:44 UTC+2 skrev Jutho: > > because it is not recognized/parsed as literal but as the application of a > unary minus, wh

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Florian Oswald
i see! *julia> **:(-0.4^-2.5)* *:(-(0.4^-2.5))* is good to know! didnt' think of this at all so far. On 18 September 2014 14:01, Jutho wrote: > because it is not recognized/parsed as literal but as the application of a > unary minus, which has lower precedence than ^ > > I guess it is not pos

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Patrick O'Leary
Haha, yeah, forgot about that. On Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:00:13 AM UTC-5, Ivar Nesje wrote: > > Operator precedence makes them parse very different. > > *julia> **:(-0.4^-2.5)* > > *:(-(0.4^-2.5))* > > > kl. 14:54:26 UTC+2 torsdag 18. september 2014 skrev Florian Oswald > følgende: >> >> y

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Jutho
because it is not recognized/parsed as literal but as the application of a unary minus, which has lower precedence than ^ I guess it is not possible to give binary minus a lower precedence than ^ and unary minus of higher precedence, since these are just different methods of the same function/o

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Ivar Nesje
Operator precedence makes them parse very different. *julia> **:(-0.4^-2.5)* *:(-(0.4^-2.5))* kl. 14:54:26 UTC+2 torsdag 18. september 2014 skrev Florian Oswald følgende: > > yes - not sure why -0.4 and (-0.4) are any different. > > On 18 September 2014 13:52, Patrick O'Leary > wrote: > >> See

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Andreas Noack
because it parses as -(0.4^2.5) Med venlig hilsen Andreas Noack 2014-09-18 8:54 GMT-04:00 Florian Oswald : > yes - not sure why -0.4 and (-0.4) are any different. > > On 18 September 2014 13:52, Patrick O'Leary > wrote: > >> Seems like the literal -0.4^2.5 should throw the same error, though?

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Florian Oswald
yes - not sure why -0.4 and (-0.4) are any different. On 18 September 2014 13:52, Patrick O'Leary wrote: > Seems like the literal -0.4^2.5 should throw the same error, though? > > > On Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:42:56 AM UTC-5, Tim Holy wrote: >> >> http://docs.julialang.org/en/latest/manual

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Patrick O'Leary
Seems like the literal -0.4^2.5 should throw the same error, though? On Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:42:56 AM UTC-5, Tim Holy wrote: > > > http://docs.julialang.org/en/latest/manual/faq/#why-does-julia-give-a-domainerror-for-certain-seemingly-sensible-operations > > > On Thursday, September 18

Re: [julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Tim Holy
http://docs.julialang.org/en/latest/manual/faq/#why-does-julia-give-a-domainerror-for-certain-seemingly-sensible-operations On Thursday, September 18, 2014 03:24:00 AM Florian Oswald wrote: > # define a variable gamma: > > gamma = 1.4 > mgamma = 1.0-gamma > > julia> mgamma > -0.3999

[julia-users] unexpected domain error for ^(float,float)

2014-09-18 Thread Florian Oswald
# define a variable gamma: gamma = 1.4 mgamma = 1.0-gamma julia> mgamma -0.3999 # this works: julia> -0.3999^2.5 -0.10119288512475567 # this doesn't: julia> mgamma^2.5 ERROR: DomainError in ^ at math.jl:252