[kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Sam Ravnborg
[cc: trimmed] On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:18:06AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Personally I don't care about Config dependency checking... they are > not modified often enough to affect me, and even if they did, dependency > checking based on changes to Config files can get ugly, AFAICS. I just

[kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 01:32:11PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > The kernel is written for people with a clue. For people without a > clue, they should use a vendor kernel or ESR's Aunt-Tillie-friendly system. > > Dumbing-down the kernel is never the right answer. Well I'm not talking about dumb

[kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Roman Zippel wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote: >>Some things made me go eww (but on the whole details): >> >> - I'd prefer the Config.in name, since this has nothing to do with >> building, and everything to do with configuration. > > > Fine with me. > (jgarzik, I think you're

[kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Roman Zippel wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > >>Well, my basic preference is >> >>* something other than Config.new (the original name in your config system) >>* something other than Config.in >> >>I think it is a mistake to name a totally different format the same na

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread J.A. Magallon
On 2002.10.09 Randy.Dunlap wrote: >On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Brendan J Simon wrote: > >| Roman Zippel wrote: >| >| >>But the fact that xconfig depends on QT is going to make some people hate >| >>it. >| >> ... >| This is a difficult one. GUI's toolkits are a bit of religion >| (fundamentalist types t

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Randy.Dunlap
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Brendan J Simon wrote: | Roman Zippel wrote: | | >>But the fact that xconfig depends on QT is going to make some people hate | >>it. | >> | >> | >This should be rather easily fixable, but it has to be done by someone who | >is more familiar with whatever prefered toolkit. I'm

[kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Randy.Dunlap
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Peter Samuelson wrote: | [Roman Zippel] | > The problem is that the config syntax will continue to evolve and | > currently I prefer to keep the library close to the matching config | > files. | > I think I can keep the basic structure constant, but new options will be | > add

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Brendan J Simon wrote: > Simple and boring but how about "Config2.in" or "Config-2.in" ??? no offense intended, but: ug... --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf __

[kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Randy.Dunlap
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Sam Ravnborg wrote: | On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:28:44PM -0700, Randy.Dunlap wrote: | > | > The kernel would still have the text-mode configurator. | The way I read the original post by Christoph Hellwig - nope. | If the kernel config library is outside the kernel then the | t

[kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Linus Torvalds wrote: > So instead: how about just "Config" for the main per-directory > configuration file, with sub-config's being "Config.3c5xx" and > "Config.rrunner". I like it. I'm glad Sam mentioned sub-configs such as Config.3c5xx, that's something that was discussed a while ago [and a

[kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Roman Zippel wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > >>Which implies that the equivalent of "source drivers/net/Config*" >>(wildcarding) in Roman's system would be useful. Or maybe "source >>drivers/net" and it knows that when given a directory it should scan for >>all Conf

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Randy.Dunlap
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote: | On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Randy.Dunlap wrote: | > | > stick with TCL/TK, like xconfig currently uses ? | | Too ugly. I actually think QT is a fine choice, I just suspect that it's | going to cause political issues. | | My favourite approach by far is to actua

[kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Sam Ravnborg wrote: > [cc: trimmed] > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:18:06AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > >>Personally I don't care about Config dependency checking... they are >>not modified often enough to affect me, and even if they did, dependency >>checking based on changes to Config files

[kbuild-devel] Re: linux kernel conf 0.8

2002-10-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Sam Ravnborg wrote: > But there is a good reason why they do it. > Take a look at dirvers/video/Config.in for example. > See the size of the big if's. They span several pages if not the whole file. > Why they do this is simple. Only check for PCI once, and group all > PCI stuff there. > With the s