[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #152 from Nate Graham --- We do that in Dolphin's embedded Konsole view, but it probably needs to be implemented for the Konsole app itself too. Feel free to file a bug report for Konsole about that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #151 from tempel.jul...@gmail.com --- Is it intended that Konsole doesn't make use of kio-fuse? When dragging & dropping a video file from Dolphin in Konsole for "mpv x...", it's not picked up and thus fails accordingly, while it works when opening the video file in Dolphin (from where it was dragged). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #150 from Rafael Linux User --- (In reply to Alexander from comment #144) > A year has passed since my last comment. > I installed Kubuntu 22.04 Beta to check how it goes. > > Only VLC is able to play music/video over an SMB share and it asks for > credentials, though share is already opened in Dolphin. > But VLC is not a very convenient music player. > > Elisa is unable to open SMB files from Dolphin. Neither by drag-n-dropping > nor by "open with". > DEADBEEF, installed from snap store, is unable to play smb files too. > Foobar200 installed using WINE also does not open SMB files. I use SMPlayer for videos and QMMP for audio files. Both can play remote files on SMB shared folders without issues. Those SMB folders are in servers or local Windows PC inside a Windows domain (DC). Dolphin ask me for credentials each time I open any shared file for the very first time on a Linux desktop session. My FUSE related libraries installed are: S | Name| Summary | Type ---+-+-+ i+ | enblend-enfuse | Tool for Composing Images | paquete i+ | fuse| Reference implementation of the "Filesystem in Userspace" | paquete i+ | fuse-exfat | exFAT file system implementation | paquete i+ | fuse3 | Reference implementation of the "Filesystem in Userspace" | paquete i+ | fuseiso | FUSE module to mount CD-ROM images with ISO9660 filesystems in them | paquete i+ | fusesmb | SMB for FUSE | paquete i+ | gvfs-fuse | VFS functionality for GLib | paquete i+ | kio-fuse| Access KIO over the regular filesystem | paquete i+ | libfuse2| Library of FUSE, the User space File System for GNU/Linux and BSD | paquete i+ | libfuse3-3 | Library of FUSE, the User space File System for GNU/Linux and BSD | paquete i+ | python38-defusedxml | XML bomb protection for Python stdlib modules | paquete -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #149 from Metal450 --- (In reply to Patrick Silva from comment #147) > see bug 436553 about VLC player Thanks for the reply. Will start following that bug instead. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #148 from John --- no special configs here either. running: Operating System: KDE neon 5.24 KDE Plasma Version: 5.24.4 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.92.0 Qt Version: 5.15.3 Kernel Version: 5.13.0-39-generic (64-bit) VLC, MPV and Firefox reads fine from SMB remote share with either audio (mp3) or video (webm). SMPlayer (with mpv backend) and Elisa, however, do not. (That leads me to think it's a program-specific bug and not Plasma related) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #147 from Patrick Silva --- see bug 436553 about VLC player -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #146 from Alexander --- (In reply to Metal450 from comment #145) No, I did not install any additional software at all before trying VLC. My SMB shares are also runnung on Ubuntu usnig config like this: - [global] workgroup = WORKGROUP server string = Samba Server on node01 netbios name = node01 security = user map to guest = bad user #guest user = nobody dns proxy = no server role = standalone server local master = no preferred master = no os level = 30 #wins support = yes #name resolve order = wins lmhosts hosts bcast acl allow execute always = True # Always advertise the shares automatically auto services = global min protocol = SMB2 --- I don't know if there are any bugreports on this issue. I didn't make an effort to find any relevant bugreports because I do not have any hope for this issue to be fixed. I do not report a bug here, I just grumble. Anyway. Kubuntu 22.04 looks nice and I did not encounter bug 403580 which was a showstopper for me on previous versions. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #145 from Metal450 --- Very coincidental timing, I just installed KDE Neon 5.24 literally this weekend for this exact reason. Oddly, I wasn't even able to get VLC to work - it just shows the same error as it did in Kubuntu 20.04. That's actually the software I most want to use from smb shares - did you need to install anything extra to get it to work? kio-fuse was installed already by default. Also, looks like this bug report is closed, even though it doesn't actually work in many cases. Is there an updated/current one to follow...? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #144 from Alexander --- A year has passed since my last comment. I installed Kubuntu 22.04 Beta to check how it goes. Only VLC is able to play music/video over an SMB share and it asks for credentials, though share is already opened in Dolphin. But VLC is not a very convenient music player. Elisa is unable to open SMB files from Dolphin. Neither by drag-n-dropping nor by "open with". DEADBEEF, installed from snap store, is unable to play smb files too. Foobar200 installed using WINE also does not open SMB files. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #143 from henk...@msn.com --- (In reply to henk717 from comment #142) > Nate, many suggestions and bug reports got merged in tgis one as a deplicate > despite those issues not being solved. > > For example my own proposal to have Dolphin automativally mount smb shares > when opened so applications no longer need SMB support. > > If this issue is rightfully closed that means suggestions like these were > ignored and unjustly merged into this issue as this would be the solution to > those problems. > > VLC is a good example because it can play when SMB shares are mounted and > this makes the SMB experience significantly easier. > > Instead of everyone effected refiling their bug report perhaps you can > assist in reopening one of these duplicates so that the problem we were > hoping to get solved can still be solved? I spoke to soon, the implementation does function very closely to what i suggested after testing it more thoroughly on my system. I do still think it would be better to streamline this for the people still effected and coordinate the new bug report from this one to prevent further duplication. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #142 from henk...@msn.com --- Nate, many suggestions and bug reports got merged in tgis one as a deplicate despite those issues not being solved. For example my own proposal to have Dolphin automativally mount smb shares when opened so applications no longer need SMB support. If this issue is rightfully closed that means suggestions like these were ignored and unjustly merged into this issue as this would be the solution to those problems. VLC is a good example because it can play when SMB shares are mounted and this makes the SMB experience significantly easier. Instead of everyone effected refiling their bug report perhaps you can assist in reopening one of these duplicates so that the problem we were hoping to get solved can still be solved? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #141 from Nate Graham --- That's an issue with VLC itself that can manifest when using a passwordless samba share. We may be able to work around it in KDE code though. More generally, when the bug report for a feature is closed because the feature is implemented, new bug reports should be used for reporting issues with the feature. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Vladimir Yerilov changed: What|Removed |Added CC||openmind...@gmail.com --- Comment #140 from Vladimir Yerilov --- This is considered "CLOSED FIXED" now but I don't understand how it could be so if everything started by Alexander in #c135 is still valid. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Stefan Brüns changed: What|Removed |Added CC||stefan.bruens@rwth-aachen.d ||e --- Comment #138 from Stefan Brüns --- (In reply to Alexander from comment #135) > Installed recently KDE Neon User Edition to check Plasma 5.21 > Tried to play video over LAN. > Neither VLC nor SMP works. > > Your input can't be opened: > VLC is unable to open the MRL > 'smb://192.168.100.100/CamVideo/CAM01/2021-02-25/cam1_2021-02-25_23-05-59. > mkv'. Check the log for details. VLC claims smb support, though kio-fuse is *not* used. On Debian-derivatives, you need vlc-plugin-smb. It also only works for password-less shares out-of-the-box, otherwise you have to configure VLCs smb plugin. See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436553 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #137 from Alexander --- kio-fuse is installed, yes. I'm sorry - a was too hasty to report this issue. It's more complicated. 1) This time I didn't reduce protocol level for SMB, which I always did previously to use the ability to browse shared folders. Now I just used Network->add networt folder -> Microsoft Windows Network Drive. 2) I have a few mp4 and mkv files on shared folders. Most of them with x264 encoding. SMPlayer is unable to open any of them over network. All of them could be opened by SMPlayer from the local drive. 3) VLC opens SOME video files. It seems that it is able to open a file which is up to 12-15 MB in size. It does not open 20MB files and larger. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #136 from Rafael Linux User --- (In reply to Alexander from comment #135) > Installed recently KDE Neon User Edition to check Plasma 5.21 > Tried to play video over LAN. > Neither VLC nor SMP works. > > Your input can't be opened: > VLC is unable to open the MRL > 'smb://192.168.100.100/CamVideo/CAM01/2021-02-25/cam1_2021-02-25_23-05-59. > mkv'. Check the log for details. > > There is nothing else in LOG. I am able to copy this file using Dolphin and > play it from the local HDD. In my distro, I needed to install manually kio-fuse ... is installed by default in Neon? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Alexander changed: What|Removed |Added CC||kos...@koshka.ddns.net --- Comment #135 from Alexander --- Installed recently KDE Neon User Edition to check Plasma 5.21 Tried to play video over LAN. Neither VLC nor SMP works. Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'smb://192.168.100.100/CamVideo/CAM01/2021-02-25/cam1_2021-02-25_23-05-59.mkv'. Check the log for details. There is nothing else in LOG. I am able to copy this file using Dolphin and play it from the local HDD. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #134 from Rafael Linux User --- (In reply to john from comment #133) > (In reply to Rafael Linux User from comment #132) > > > Perfect, I'll do it. I'm sorry if not the correct thread. > > Please, share the bug number / link with us. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432856 > > thanks -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #133 from john --- (In reply to Rafael Linux User from comment #132) > Perfect, I'll do it. I'm sorry if not the correct thread. Please, share the bug number / link with us. thanks -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #132 from Rafael Linux User --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #131) > That sounds like a bug. Please file it separately. Perfect, I'll do it. I'm sorry if not the correct thread. Best regards -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED --- Comment #131 from Nate Graham --- That sounds like a bug. Please file it separately. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #130 from Rafael Linux User --- Despite KIO-FUSE implementation does its job, unfortunately, it's still a workaround. Yes, we can open and save transparently our remote files but indeed, they are working like temp files on local storage. The issue is that if I open a remote file with (for example) "Visual Code Studio" or "LibreOffice", restart my system and I try to load them again as usually with "File, Recent files", I CAN'T load that remote files cause the stored path in such applications are pointing to temporal local files (/var/run ) instead real remote files previously opened. So that's why I consider this bug is not fixed, still a workaround. Please, fix it -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||vega...@ukr.net --- Comment #129 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 429292 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #128 from Rafael Linux User --- I did a repository installation sudo zypper in kio-fuse Anyway I must clarify that MELD even don't let open remote files, so I can't consider a that case a issue of kio-fuse, but MELD. LibreOffice works now well at over samba. I didn't try still over ftp. I need to investigate more, cause I found cases (like MELD) that simply are not ready to work over network protocols. Thank you -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #127 from a.saout...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Rafael Linux User from comment #125) > KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.2 > KDE Frameworks Version: 5.75.0 > Qt Version: 5.15.1 > Dolphin 20.x > kio-fuse installed > > ... and NOTHING CHANGED. "LibreOffice", "Visual Code", "MELD" and any > application no Qt based, continue copying locally the opened remote file. > Something is still going wrong. I can open and save directly any file thru > FTP with Kate, and works like working in my local disk. However, mentioned > applications, even on SMB remote folders, are always copied first to local. > I can try to open a PDF on FTP connection but first is copied to my hard > disk. > > What's supposed user need to do to make this to work? > > Thank you By kio-fuse installed you mean you ran `make install` or installed the program via your package manager? If not, you'll need to do one or the other. for anyone else, for kio-fuse to automatically start when needed, then install the application from your package manager if possible. Otherwise, when building run `make install` into your system directory to take advantage of DBus on demand start. Otherwise, please file a bug under the kiofuse product. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #126 from Rafael Linux User --- Correction: It seems LibreOffice works ok over Samba (doesn't make a local copy yet) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #125 from Rafael Linux User --- KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.2 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.75.0 Qt Version: 5.15.1 Dolphin 20.x kio-fuse installed ... and NOTHING CHANGED. "LibreOffice", "Visual Code", "MELD" and any application no Qt based, continue copying locally the opened remote file. Something is still going wrong. I can open and save directly any file thru FTP with Kate, and works like working in my local disk. However, mentioned applications, even on SMB remote folders, are always copied first to local. I can try to open a PDF on FTP connection but first is copied to my hard disk. What's supposed user need to do to make this to work? Thank you -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #124 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 343591 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #123 from Metal450 --- (In reply to Christoph Feck from comment #122) > the best place for new users to ask questions > is in forums instead of a bug tracker. Be sure to better describe your issue > by providing exact steps that others can follow. "Fighting" is not a good > way describe what you were doing. Hi, thanks for the reply - I actually did indeed reference a few other places (i.e. StackOverflow, Reddit), & it was suggested that the behaviors I was seeing were due to kio-fuse & that they had been fixed in 20.04. The specific issue is that although I can browse smb, the vast majority of programs fail to be able to work with them. i.e. opening a file from smb in VLC fails; opening a photo in XnViewMP works but then cannot scroll to any others; opening a PDF in MasterPDF has to copy the entire file over the network before it can view, and so on and so forth. Since all of these do work properly in other file managers (i.e. none of these issues exist in Nemo, Nautilus, Caja, etc), it was indicated that the problem is unique to Dolphin, and after some more searching, I was led here. And I believe that the behavior has been fixed, & thus things should now work properly in Dolphin as well. If I can figure out a way to get 20.04 installed ;) Just a follow-up, I don't think Flatpak works - I was able to install Dolphin 20.04 that way, but in that case, I couldn't access smb at all. Presumably because of its packaging / it doesn't interact with the other necessary parts of the system to take advantage of this fix. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #122 from Christoph Feck --- > I'm a new Linux user coming over from Windows & always "fighting" with being > able to reliably access network shares on various networks kiofuse won't help with accessing networks. If you cannot access them from Dolphin (by using a correct smb:// or sftp:// URL including server, path, user, and password), you won't be able to access them with kiofuse either. It is possible your issue can be resolved using the "old" version provided in Kubuntu 20.04. But as Konstantin suggested, the best place for new users to ask questions is in forums instead of a bug tracker. Be sure to better describe your issue by providing exact steps that others can follow. "Fighting" is not a good way describe what you were doing. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #121 from Metal450 --- Gotcha, thanks. I did some searching & found the Kubuntu Backports PPA here (https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs#Kubuntu_Backports), but adding it didn't make the Dolphin update available. I also since found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1260704/how-to-install-latest-stable-dolphin-file-manager-on-kubuntu-via-xdg-opendiscov So, I guess the options are Flatpak, or wait until Kubuntu 20.10 ships in October (or hope that it gets added to Kubuntu PPA sometime in the interim). Thanks for your reply :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #120 from Konstantin Kharlamov --- (In reply to Metal450 from comment #119) > Apologize if this is a dumb question, but is there any way to get Dolphin > 20.04 installed on (and thus this issue fixed in) Kubuntu 20.04? it's not > in the default repos yet (still Dolphin 19), but i.e. some "testing" repo, > PPA, or other approach? Or is the only way to just wait? I'm a new Linux > user coming over from Windows & always "fighting" with being able to > reliably access network shares on various networks (it's a portable laptop) > has been *the* biggest struggle for me as a new user. Any way I could get > this installed now would be greatly appreciated (i.e. I see this was > reported fixed in January, aka 6 months go - no idea how long it would take > if I "just wait" for it to appear in the Canonical repos ;)) First of all, you're asking in the wrong place. This is upstream KDE bugtracker, and KDE has no influence over what downstream does. But answering your question: I doubt a newer Dolphin will ever hit the default repos of Ubuntu 20.04, especially since it is an LTS release. This is a known problem with Ubuntu: they take a bunch of software, and for whatever reason freeze it at specific version, and stop to even take minor version updates. It is a real problem, I've seen quite a few posts on askubuntu site, where solution to people's problems was to just install a modern libinput on their 18.04 Ubuntu, because they were stumbling upon a bug fixed long ago, but 18.04 has a really ancient libinput. In a sense, you're lucky here that there's at least a KDE PPA, so you can get latest KDE on your Ubuntu somehow. There's no PPA for libinput, so those users are out of luck. You either live with it, or you use more upstream-friendly distro, like Fedora. I don't think there's much else you can do. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Metal450 changed: What|Removed |Added CC||metal...@gmail.com --- Comment #119 from Metal450 --- Apologize if this is a dumb question, but is there any way to get Dolphin 20.04 installed on (and thus this issue fixed in) Kubuntu 20.04? it's not in the default repos yet (still Dolphin 19), but i.e. some "testing" repo, PPA, or other approach? Or is the only way to just wait? I'm a new Linux user coming over from Windows & always "fighting" with being able to reliably access network shares on various networks (it's a portable laptop) has been *the* biggest struggle for me as a new user. Any way I could get this installed now would be greatly appreciated (i.e. I see this was reported fixed in January, aka 6 months go - no idea how long it would take if I "just wait" for it to appear in the Canonical repos ;)) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #118 from amez365 --- Infrastructure Engineer Infrastructure Engineer's roles include being responsible for designing, building, implementing and maintaining the IT infrastructure using the latest technology. An IT infrastructure engineer ensures that all IT systems that support businesses of any size operate efficiently. https://www.fieldengineer.com/skills/what-is-an-infrastructure-engineer I -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #117 from amez365 --- Freelance Cisco Wireless LAN Design Specialist https://www.fieldengineer.com/c1/hire-freelance-cisco-wireless-lan-design-specialist Cisco systems are one of the most popular networking systems in the world so we are sure you have clients using them. If so, then you may find they want to set up a Cisco wireless LAN network. This provides a way to keep a whole network connected across one business which is fantastic. For that you need a freelance Cisco wireless LAN design specialist. They’ll ensure that this task is handled the correct way and that the network provides the benefits matching business needs. https://www.fieldengineer.com/c1/hire-freelance-cisco-wireless-lan-design-specialist . -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #116 from Nate Graham --- It's using KRun instead of streaming, due to a lack of streaming support. Streaming support just made it in yesterday. Might need a few days to get into the repo in Neon unstable. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #115 from Patrick Silva --- Created attachment 126425 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=126425=edit better screenshot of system copying file to local file system before opens it -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #114 from Patrick Silva --- Created attachment 126422 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=126422=edit system copying file to local file system before opens it I'm using Neon unstable edition, kio-fuse package is installed but my system is still copying files from samba share to local file system before opens them. My screenshot shows Plasma notification after I open an audio file with Strawberry player. Operating System: KDE neon Unstable Edition KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.80 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0 Qt Version: 5.14.1 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #113 from Rafael Linux User --- Well, as I wrote, I'm using Framework 5.67, but no "kio-fuse" package in that repository. Dolphin is version 19. So, when Dolphin 20 have been compiled and installed, will be kio-fuse installed by default? And will it work when opening remote files from LibreOffice, Krusader, GIMP ...? Thank you -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #112 from Nate Graham --- Full support is coming with the upcoming release of Dolphin/kio-extras 20.04. Frameworks support went in for 5.67. Both will require you to install the kio-fuse package. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #111 from Rafael Linux User --- Please, someone can tell here which Plasma/KDE-Frameworks/KDE-Qt have been patched? I'm using Framework 5.67 and Qt 5.14 and problem is not fixed. Maybe I need to install some new library?? https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2019/StatusReports/Feverfew Thank you -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Harald Sitter changed: What|Removed |Added CC||binm...@hotmail.com --- Comment #110 from Harald Sitter --- *** Bug 396641 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||i...@gmx.net --- Comment #109 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 394753 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 john changed: What|Removed |Added CC||johnmaveric...@mail.com --- Comment #108 from john --- Very very very VERY happy it got fixed!!! A BIG "thanks" to all involved! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #107 from Rafael Linux User --- Is that true I wait it for summer, but I forgot my hopes. If it's solved, my congratulations for all developers that fix this long-term issue! They will make happy to all that bet for KDE as the Linux environment for business. ;) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #106 from Łukasz Szeremeta --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #105) > This is now implemented with the new kio-fuse system! > > https://cgit.kde.org/kio-fuse.git/ > > Go bug your distros of choice to package it and ship it by default! > > Let's all give a big round of applause to Alexander Saoutkin and Fabian Vogt > who took the lead on this challenging and important project. Yay, finally this was done. Yes, big applause to Alexander Saoutkin and Fabian Vogt. Hope that this will be added to KDE Neon soon :-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Status|CONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #105 from Nate Graham --- This is now implemented with the new kio-fuse system! https://cgit.kde.org/kio-fuse.git/ Go bug your distros of choice to package it and ship it by default! Let's all give a big round of applause to Alexander Saoutkin and Fabian Vogt who took the lead on this challenging and important project. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Depends on|293888 | See Also||https://bugs.kde.org/show_b ||ug.cgi?id=293888 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293888 [Bug 293888] Poor performance with mounted network locations -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #104 from Rafael Linux User --- I wish we could have with that THE solution for all this years of headaches concerning this issue. Thank you -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #103 from pos...@posteo.eu --- (In reply to Rafael Linux User from comment #102) > Nate, I can't see anything about that > https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2019/Ideas > Where is info about what you are talking about? > Thank you You find it here: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/projects/#5417220300079104 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #102 from Rafael Linux User --- Nate, I can't see anything about that https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2019/Ideas Where is info about what you are talking about? Thank you -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #101 from Nate Graham --- In fact, the kio-fuse project is being worked on for Google Summer of Code this year! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #100 from Rafael Linux User --- (In reply to Jan Przybylak from comment #99) > I found this implementation that mostly works: > https://gitlab.com/Vogtinator/kio-fuse I understand that could be a reference for developers, but it's not a transparent and transparent solution for users. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #99 from Jan Przybylak --- I found this implementation that mostly works: https://gitlab.com/Vogtinator/kio-fuse -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #98 from Nate Graham --- This is currently being worked on as a Google Summer of Code project! The reason why we can't use GNOME's GIO+GVFS is because the architecture is completely different. Adapting it to work with our stuff, if it was even possible, would be an enormous engineering challenge on the order of just rolling our own. It would be like adapting a jet engine to power a tugboat. You *could*, but why not just build a tugboat engine instead? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #97 from Jason Straight --- (In reply to Bo Simonsen from comment #95) > (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #66) > > Any update, Bo? :) > > There are really issues with kiofuse. Tried to transfer a relatively big > file, got me 6 mbit/s and intensive CPU load, with plain sftp I got 100 > mbit/s. I saw in the log > > log_kio_sftp: seek, offset = 31170560 > log_kio_sftp: write, offset = 0 , bytes = 4096 > > So kio_sftp is called just to write 4K, because "cp" does it. KIO provides > file_copy, file_move etc for these operations. FTP has shortcomings as well, > because no seek is possible kiofuse is not able to mount the ftp kioslave. > I am quite sure an analysis will discover other shortcomings as well. I must > say I am not really fan of inventing the wheel again here, maybe using > existing fuse technology like sshfs is a better choice, or gvfs. You're lucky. Most of the time my kio powered transfers just die. Single small files are fine. If I copy anything large, like an entire folder, or an iso, over ssh or smb, it almost always just dies. I gave up on it. I just use nemo file manager for anything to do with remote FS. It's too frustrating. I know there are other features concerning KIO slaves that people don't want to give up, when you cant do file operations with a file manager, that's kind of a moot point. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #96 from Jan Przybylak --- I agree, if there are existing solutions, I'd just use those. I don't know however if GVfs lacks required features that KIO has or there are other reasons not to use it in KDE. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #95 from Bo Simonsen --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #66) > Any update, Bo? :) There are really issues with kiofuse. Tried to transfer a relatively big file, got me 6 mbit/s and intensive CPU load, with plain sftp I got 100 mbit/s. I saw in the log log_kio_sftp: seek, offset = 31170560 log_kio_sftp: write, offset = 0 , bytes = 4096 So kio_sftp is called just to write 4K, because "cp" does it. KIO provides file_copy, file_move etc for these operations. FTP has shortcomings as well, because no seek is possible kiofuse is not able to mount the ftp kioslave. I am quite sure an analysis will discover other shortcomings as well. I must say I am not really fan of inventing the wheel again here, maybe using existing fuse technology like sshfs is a better choice, or gvfs. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #94 from David Edmundson --- >Uh, no. KDE applications are expected to use KIO. Absolutely, I wasn't suggesting otherwise. What I'm saying is that any code paths that check the url.scheme() == file and take a different path need to still go through KIO. I can think of at least 3 examples in plasma over the last year where this happened. Otherwise putting FUSE mounts on the system has the risk of making our own apps worse. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #93 from Konstantin Kharlamov --- (In reply to Christoph Feck from comment #92) > > First pre-requisite step is making all KDE apps robust to blocking calls on > > files which it thinks are safe as they're on the local file system. > > Uh, no. KDE applications are expected to use KIO. You would have to fix all > _other_ applications, which don't use the KIO API. I guess applications > using GIO are also safe, because (I hope) GIO was also designed > asynchronous. But POSIX API is synchronous, and users of those applications > just have to live with UI hangs unless they use separate threads for IO. It's okay to use KIO, nobody advises to drop it. Idea is just to improve a usability on FUSE mounts a little bit. You can't reasonably expect every existing app out there to implement a new protocol just to make it compatible with KDE. Also, imagine how bloated servers would become if every terminal utility would implement KIO just because on KDE-powered desktops it's the way to go. - The main selling point of FUSE is that nobody have to implement anything, it just works™. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #92 from Christoph Feck --- > First pre-requisite step is making all KDE apps robust to blocking calls on > files which it thinks are safe as they're on the local file system. Uh, no. KDE applications are expected to use KIO. You would have to fix all _other_ applications, which don't use the KIO API. I guess applications using GIO are also safe, because (I hope) GIO was also designed asynchronous. But POSIX API is synchronous, and users of those applications just have to live with UI hangs unless they use separate threads for IO. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Mathieu Roy changed: What|Removed |Added CC|yeu...@coleumes.org,| |yeu...@gnu.org | --- Comment #91 from Mathieu Roy --- I think we can all thanks David Edmunson to remind us how important it is for the end users not to disturb too much developers, since they are clearly so devoted to fix this issue in particular. So please, agree with David Edmunson to let the developers talk about how to fix this important issue, that they cared so much about between 2004 and 201.. 2019, even though this issue does not exists on any other desktop. We should not bother them with stupid ideas as to set a bounty for it or fund development. If we pay attention what a good guy like David says, they clearly do not care of it. And this guy must matter since his statement about how happily KDE trashed massive amount of (working features) code to replace them by some-init-that-replace-all was an omen. Thanks to keep all the good work. I hope the conduct of conduct allows me to tell that KDE 1 was an improvement over Windows 98/NT 4.0. while KDE current is much less usable than Windows 10 as desktop (but even 7/8...). But who cares about the feeling of KDE 1 users, eh!? Please accept our apologies, we should never have suggested to sponsor any development. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #90 from David Edmundson --- Even if we did, (which would be a waay bigger project than what's proposed here) they don't have a 1:1 mapping with regards to spawning/teardown - it'd need every client app to change which isn't do-able in the 5.x series. Lets keep things on topic and not hide the dev comments. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #89 from Alexander Schlarb --- Is there any reason by KDE really needs it's own remote vfs abstraction system and cannot use GIO/GVFS instead as suggested in comment #6? (There is even some code to start off for inspiration from even if its like 10 years old.) Some selling points GVFS/GIO has over KIO (mostly subjective, but meh): * Already has the mentioned FUSE layer * Used and maintained outside the KDE community * Copying many small files (locally!) is a lot faster - (Although it's still insanely slower than good old `cp A B`.) * Finally having a standard would probably make a lot more external devs happy to add native support for this (I don't think that standard could be KIO, since it's so KDE/Qt/C++-centric while GIO basically only requires GLib) * (Doesn't crash on MTP [might just happen to be an issue with all mobile devices I ever owned, but it never happens when using GIO instead].) I'm honestly interested in the devs opinions here since: There may well be something obvious I'm not seeing. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #88 from David Edmundson --- Splitting this into multiple small tasks: First pre-requisite step is making all KDE apps robust to blocking calls on files which it thinks are safe as they're on the local file system. Adding fuse mounts before that is introducing a ticking bomb onto your computer - and one reason why wanting to add FUSE mounts anyway is met with negativity. Create a samba mount (manually or ksambamounter) unplug the cable and try to find code paths that freeze. Most common ones are fixed, it'll be obscure places with context menus, favourites, bookmarks, symlinks on desktop that will trigger this. etc. If/when they do, get a backtrace and open a new bug. If you want to help this get solved, this is the most helpful step readers here can do without any coding. The remaining steps are mostly outlined in comment #44 (which is buried in people spamming). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #87 from ariasuni --- I would happily drop a hundred bucks on a fundraising/bounty campaign if this would mean somebody competent is being paid to work on this. Nate, do you think this is something that can organized and coordinated by KDE? I’d like at least to see what’s reasonably achievable and how much money it would cost. And maybe we could divide this goal into easier-to-achieve goal so that we could start working toward it. This request is stuck for so long now; maybe as a community we should try to tackle it differently, and think about it outside the limited scope of a bug report. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #86 from Rafael Linux User --- I agree with Mathieu Roy and Jean-Francois Juneau comments, even last talking about contributing with donations. I'm sure none of us try to understimate any developers work, but the reality is that in my case, after more of eight years using Linux and KDE, I can't recommend to any on my job to migrate to KDE precisely cause every day we need to do our job, not fighting with issues (caused from Plasma or not) accessing FTP or SMB files in an heterogenous way. I access each day to FTP and SMB local services, but each day I must take into account that it's not the same if I open a remote file from Krusader (or Dolphin) that from Caja, or if I compare remote files with Meld or with Kompare or KDiff, or if I open a remote file with Kate or with Atom ... it's really a headache for a simple user that want to work transparently from Linux systems. As other users said, it's 2018, and I can see KDE desktop changed his name a lot of time ago to Plasma, and each new version of Plasma I expected to see this issue solved, but at this point I can't recommend anyone to jump Linux if they really want to work with files outside their PCs. In fact, is not the unique issue that is not solved and even not recognized, despite it's easy to verify they: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351175 Some times, as a Linux user and a Plasma fan, seeing no patches for some issues make me not want to notify issues cause seems my efforts to notify this problems are good for nothing. You can be sure non English speakers (like me) have an extra effort to try to report issues to developers. Anyway, I give thanks and best wishes to KDE community and developers for their day to day job. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #85 from Mathieu Roy --- Nate, you are right: we should have made a bounty/kickstarted this earlier. Way earlier. Probably we did not because many would have though it would be done anyway. That was a mistake on our part, all of us following this reports since more than a decade. This KDE bug tracking system should have an integrated kickstarter-alike system! Instead of adding ourselves to CC, we would add ourselves to a pledge, I am sure at some point we could raise some reasonable amount of cash. I personally unfortunately lost interest in KDE because that, and many other little things (I wont say what it relates to, to avoid off-topic flamewar), forced me not only to no longer use it (granted: not so meaningful, I nowadays use mostly use awesomewm - so I could deal with it and work around it) but I also was forced to make non-geek people (parents, in-laws and such) I am administering the computer of use something else because things like this had to work. But if someone is kickstarting something about it, I would donate a few coins still :-) and I am sure I would not be alone. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 --- Comment #84 from Jean-Francois Juneau --- If we raised enough money is it a project that developers at Blue Systems could take? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75324 Thomas Merkel changed: What|Removed |Added CC|t...@core.io | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
