On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 13:09:24 BST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> just a couple of comments from my side ... .
>
> * In my view we have close-to-zero energy/capacity to move (nor
> strongly influence) our users in their choices when it comes to sync
> communication channels.
Hello,
just a couple of comments from my side ... .
* In my view we have close-to-zero energy/capacity to move (nor
strongly influence) our users in their choices when it comes to sync
communication channels.
* We never did have such capacity, not in the IRC days, the jabber
days, where the
On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 3:12 AM Carl Schwan wrote:
> On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 08:57:31 CEST Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss wrote:
> > Hello KDE community,
> >
> > apologies for cross-posting!
>
> Please let's stop doing that, it's generating a lot of duplicated emails
> for
> everyone. Most people
On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 08:57:31 CEST Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss wrote:
> Hello KDE community,
>
> apologies for cross-posting!
Please let's stop doing that, it's generating a lot of duplicated emails for
everyone. Most people interested in this discussion are in the kde-community
channel
Hi all, we are a diverse community with a diverse set of needs, that is
evident in the responses. There may be a more general discussion to be
had about formalizing a process for adding/removing services to KDE's
infrastructure. In fact, there is currently a Phabricator task about
this, which
My response is interspersed.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 9:51 AM Paul Brown wrote:
> On Wednesday, 23 August 2023 17:04:04 CEST Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 16:55:25 CEST Niccolò Ve wrote:
> > > > Postponing the deadline is not ideal, since there always will be
> people
> >
On Wednesday, 23 August 2023 17:04:04 CEST Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 16:55:25 CEST Niccolò Ve wrote:
> > > Postponing the deadline is not ideal, since there always will be people
> > > jumping out saying "Why wasn't I told" "Was it discussed before" again
> > > and again.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 6:01 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 17:16:16 CEST Niccolò Ve wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 5:04 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 16:55:25 CEST Niccolò Ve wrote:
> > > > > Postponing the deadline is not ideal, since there
Hi,
Le mer. 23 août 2023 à 18:01, Ingo Klöcker a écrit :
>
> On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 17:16:16 CEST Niccolò Ve wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 5:04 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 16:55:25 CEST Niccolò Ve wrote:
> > > > > Postponing the deadline is not ideal,
No, It’s not.
Biggest gnome channel is gnome Brazil with more than 800 users. It’s on
telegram.
On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 at 16:50 Fusion Future wrote:
> +1 for the decision. I don't feel it very necessary to maintain the
> Telegram bridge as GNOME chat rooms are also Matrix/IRC only. I also see
>
On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 17:16:16 CEST Niccolò Ve wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 5:04 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 16:55:25 CEST Niccolò Ve wrote:
> > > > Postponing the deadline is not ideal, since there always will be
> > > > people
> > > > jumping out saying "Why
On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 5:04 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 16:55:25 CEST Niccolò Ve wrote:
> > > Postponing the deadline is not ideal, since there always will be people
> > > jumping out saying "Why wasn't I told" "Was it discussed before" again
> > > and again.
> >
> >
On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 16:55:25 CEST Niccolò Ve wrote:
> > Postponing the deadline is not ideal, since there always will be people
> > jumping out saying "Why wasn't I told" "Was it discussed before" again
> > and again.
>
> Please note that the community was never told about this decision
> Postponing the deadline is not ideal, since there always will be people
> jumping out saying "Why wasn't I told" "Was it discussed before" again
> and again.
Please note that the community was never told about this decision before
yesterday, and it was never discussed publicly.
On Wed, Aug 23,
Correct: s/reliable/unreliable/
+1 for the decision. I don't feel it very necessary to maintain the
Telegram bridge as GNOME chat rooms are also Matrix/IRC only. I also see
the Telegram bridge becomes more and more reliable in other non-KDE
groups, so it's increasingly annoying that sometimes messages sent from
Matrix can't
On Wednesday, 23 August 2023 13:56:13 CEST Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> On 23.8.2023 14.24, Paul Brown wrote:
> > A lot fo good ideas we can use to reach a compromise, but this ...
> >
> >> KDE members are of course free to participate in discussions anywhere
> >> they want, but loading KDE
Dear All,
Sorry for being a pain in the neck about this, but the more I read the plan to
migrate, the less it seems a plan at all. It just boils down to a deadline.
There is no contingency, nobody has considered what the people who use
Telegram to interact with us want, nobody has opened any
> 3rd party
> social network platforms need moderators/user support.
And Promo time. A LOT of promo time. Maintaing 3rd party social network
platforms is much, much, much more time expensive compared to maintaining
the bridge.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 2:05 PM Ilmari Lauhakangas <
On 23.8.2023 14.24, Paul Brown wrote:
A lot fo good ideas we can use to reach a compromise, but this ...
KDE members are of course free to participate in discussions anywhere
they want, but loading KDE resources (sysadmin team & machines) with all
possible proprietary network doesn't seem a
A lot fo good ideas we can use to reach a compromise, but this ...
> KDE members are of course free to participate in discussions anywhere
> they want, but loading KDE resources (sysadmin team & machines) with all
> possible proprietary network doesn't seem a priority for me.
...
By that
Perhaps it is helpful to provide a summary of the responses so far so we
can figure out the best way forward.
Sometimes hard decisions need to be made, and all of your opinions are
important. I hope everyone's views are represented below. If not, please
let me know, it was not intentional.
Le 23/08/2023 à 03:40, Paul Brown a écrit :
Kdenlive is another example where most users on both the Spanish and
English channels are largely on Telegram.
Hello,
As a (former/on pause) kdenlive dev & community member, I used to switch
between forums, bugzilla, mailing list, phabricator,
Just to confirm: this means that if we find a more reliable way to bridge
the channels we can avoid this?
If so, I'd be happy to give it a shot.
~Nicco
Il giorno mer 23 ago 2023 alle ore 10:27 Ingo Klöcker ha
scritto:
> On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 09:34:04 CEST Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> > (On
On Mittwoch, 23. August 2023 09:34:04 CEST Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> (On top of what Paul said, if this happens, should we also stop with the
> Reddit and Facebook management, since it’s a closed source software on for
> profit companies?)
The Telegram bridging is shut down because of unmanageable
(On top of what Paul said, if this happens, should we also stop with the
Reddit and Facebook management, since it’s a closed source software on for
profit companies?)
On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 at 03:41 Paul Brown wrote:
> On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 22:08:34 CEST Albert Vaca Cintora wrote:
> > KDE
On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 22:08:34 CEST Albert Vaca Cintora wrote:
> KDE Connect has a Telegram group with 660 members (vs 100 on matrix). I
> don't know if we are the exception
It's not. Kdenlive is another example where most users on both the Spanish and
English channels are largely on
Hi,
On 8/22/23 12:45, Niccolò Ve wrote:
This is a terribly careless decision, for multiple reasons.
Firstly, this is something that has a strong impact on the entire
community and, because of that, it should've been discussed publicly
before agreeing on this. I had been told this was going
I side with the comments made by Niccolo and Abert. We have some 300
users in Telegram vs about 170 on Matrix for the visual design
channel. Our audience, being a graphical design and user experience
channel, tends to attract users who are more inclined to the arts and
may be less technical than
KDE Connect has a Telegram group with 660 members (vs 100 on matrix). I
don't know if we are the exception with such a big group on Telegram, but
this is going to be a hit to our community :(
On Tue, 22 Aug 2023, 09:02 Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss,
wrote:
> Hello KDE community,
>
> apologies for
To lighten the mood, I support this decision and it's good we're finally
sorting this out.
As previously discussed, I'm not sure how discussing this publicly would
change anything. As implied in the e-mail, this seems to be a decision that
had to be made between KDE and EMS (who hosts the
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 2:02 PM Kai Bojens wrote:
> On 22.08.23 12:45, Niccolò Ve wrote:
> > This is a terribly careless decision, for multiple reasons.
>
> No, it's not. This is an Open Source Community in which we all have at
> least one thing in common: our software should be free and we work
On 22.08.23 12:45, Niccolò Ve wrote:
This is a terribly careless decision, for multiple reasons.
No, it's not. This is an Open Source Community in which we all have at
least one thing in common: our software should be free and we work very
hard to ensure its freedom. Telegram on the other hand
Thank you for the thoughtful response, Nicco! Of course absolutely no
one wants for you or anyone else to stop contributing to KDE because of
this. And I understand many of your points and agree to with the view
that the transition time is short.
I am helping out in the capacity of
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Hi to all,
This is a terribly careless decision, for multiple reasons.
Firstly, this is something that has a strong impact on the entire community
and, because of that, it should've been discussed publicly before agreeing
on this. I had been told this was going to happen, but only through private
messages
Hello KDE community,
apologies for cross-posting!
The time has finally come: both Telegram <-> Matrix bridges will be shut
down in 4 weeks on *Wednesday 20 September*. Let's start the
co-ordination process now so everything goes as smoothly as possible.
For all KDE contributors: please read
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